10mm gel tests

[mag360]

I wish the 10mm hornady had gone about 16". im surprised it didnt since expansion was about .65 avg.  current carry load in g20sf though.

[Intercooler]

I'm going to ask Milo to slow it down to 1250 FPS and see how it does. 1600 FPS may exceed the 140's speed limit.

[4949shooter]

I don't know about that. According to Andrew's test, the 140 at 1500+ makes an awful nice home defense load with minimal penetration.

I guess it all depends on the application.

[Intercooler]

I don't know about that. According to Andrew's test, the 140 at 1500+ makes an awful nice home defense load with minimal penetration.

I guess it all depends on the application.

Which round are you referring to?

[4949shooter]

I don't know about that. According to Andrew's test, the 140 at 1500+ makes an awful nice home defense load with minimal penetration.

I guess it all depends on the application.

Which round are you referring to?

This one:

[Intercooler]

  It smokes and that brass still looks good. I'm a little concerned why the all copper didn't hold together though. This might make a great round as-is if you buy the theory the fragments do a bunch of damage. If Andrew would want to rework this on his own at a couple of different speeds I could send the rounds to do it. I'm thinking at a reduced velocity it might go 14" or so and give a nice mushroom. We need to see the 155gr at 1400 FPS to see if it acts differently.

[4949shooter]

I agree the bullet will hold together more at the lower velocity. I'm just saying a low penetration / high velocity fragmenting bullet has it's own niche (like home defense).

[Intercooler]

    The velocity on this one show lower than an out of the box new round. This was one from the pull-down that was reassembled. Testing has shown the velocity usually goes down some due to a tension difference. I will try to get another box at some point to see if a new round going faster drives deeper.

[Raggedyman]

[The_Shadow]

They need a bigger cavity to hydraulically induce expansion.  The cavity of the Devastator is almost too big even for hard alloy, using pure lead and slower velocities (like < 900 fps) they open without busting apart so much.

I need to try some with RTV sealant filled cavities to see how they work, it may delay the expansion till further inside.
If you get a chance try that out...

[Raggedyman]

That's actually really close to what I was hoping for. Another 100 fps ought to nail it. I wanted a load that would penetrate deeply and expand very moderately. A woods defense load. There are plenty that drive deeply with no expansion and a small meplat but that bullet is like a full wadcutter. A little more velocity and I'm hoping to get about .45".

[mag360]

That's actually really close to what I was hoping for. Another 100 fps ought to nail it. I wanted a load that would penetrate deeply and expand very moderately. A woods defense load. There are plenty that drive deeply with no expansion and a small meplat but that bullet is like a full wadcutter. A little more velocity and I'm hoping to get about .45".

yeah that mihec is looking good, i agree with you on a little more expansion.

[Slateman]

Are there any gel tests with Ted Nugent's 10mm Speer JHP? I know Intercooler did one but the video I found said the bullet curve upwards and, as a result, he didn't get any expansion/weight data. Was there an update to that?

[Raggedyman]

No, sir. I haven't redone that test. Velocity was about 1,200 fps so it ought to do well. 180 gr Gold Dot at 1,300 fps are marginal and they work well from 900 fps on up so 1,200 fps ought to be about perfect for a "true" 10mm 180 gr Gold Dot. Maybe I'll get back to that one some day.

Anyhow, here's the Federal 180 gr Trophy Bonded JSP:

[Intercooler]

I know HP's travel more with Denim. Would it be possible to fire the other one at some point with Denim to see if it hits 18"?