10mm gel tests

Raggedyman · January 22 2013 01:40:19 PM MST

10mm hand load fired from EAA Witness through four layers of denim. 155 gr Barnes TAC-XP over 8.0 gr of 800-X, new Starline brass, Winchester LP primer. Data is noted in the video and in video description.

REDLINE · January 22 2013 01:43:47 PM MST

Not too bad. I still like the 155gr Gold Dot best from what you tested.

Raggedyman · February 04 2013 10:07:38 AM MST

Video:

10mm Underwood 135 gr Nosler JHP fired from EAA Witness 4.5" barrel through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 591.4 fps, 3.3"

Impact velocity: 1,568 fps
Penetration: 7.9"
Retained weight: 80.4 gr
Max expansion: 0.745"
Min expansion: 0.529"

pacapcop · February 04 2013 11:43:52 AM MST

The gel went total airborne,ouch.

4949shooter · February 04 2013 02:31:05 PM MST

Good one, thank for posting it.

sqlbullet · February 05 2013 08:41:10 AM MST

Good video. I am still up in the air about super light bullets in 10mm. I know lots of guys really like them, and there are some impressive videos of them. I even have some at home. But I still, deep down, just better trust a 200 grain that will go 15" +.

Raggedyman · February 05 2013 09:21:03 AM MST

I concur. Penetration is king in handgun bullets and it doesn't matter how brutal the tissue disruption is if it doesn't drive deeply enough to do it to vital organs and major blood vessels.

165 and 180 grain JHPs do well in 10mm too, though. I'd reserve the 200+ gr bullets for large animal defense.

Intercooler · February 05 2013 02:06:15 PM MST

What ones have gone 15" plus?

Raggedyman · February 05 2013 06:44:37 PM MST

Underwood 220 gr HC
PPU 180 gr JHP
Black Talon 200 gr
Handloaded 200 gr XTP @ 1,133 fps
Corbon 180 gr BCSP

Intercooler · February 06 2013 04:14:39 AM MST

Of those which ones failed to expand?

Raggedyman · February 06 2013 09:28:06 AM MST

The Underwood HC (obviously), The PPU, and the Corbon.

That leaves only the XTP and the Black Talon for expanding bullets offering >15" of penetration from what I've tested so far. The Black Talon is, of course, no longer available. Does anyone know if there is a Ranger T .400" 200 gr bullet available as a component? That's the same bullet as the Black Talon but without the black coating. I'd also like to test the Nosler 200 gr when I get a chance.

The_Shadow · February 06 2013 10:19:11 AM MST

I have not seen the Ranger T's offered as component items...more people would probably use them if they did.

Intercooler · February 06 2013 11:52:42 AM MST

How about a .400 A-frame bullet? Such an animal?

sqlbullet · February 06 2013 03:49:16 PM MST

I dont' think any of the bullets are having issues with core separation, so I don't see where an a-frame buys you much. The A-frame solves the issue of long, high velocity rifle bullets that lacked penetration due to core separation.

Intercooler · February 06 2013 04:47:40 PM MST

Some food to chew on with definitions of all the bullets:

http://www.littlestonesrus.com/The-Bullets_ep_47.html

My thought was just that it may be available in a heavy weight and drive deeper since it's being used for Magnum rounds at Magnum speeds. I sent Chopinbloc a couple of A-frames for .357 and .44. Let's see what the gel says!