10mm gel tests

[sqlbullet]

It was an amazing round, and hard to believe it is nearly 30 years old.  For 1991, this was outstanding performance.

[4949shooter]

I have have a box that was gifted to me. Also have two boxes in .40 that I saved from back in the day.

[5pins]

Hornady 10mm 175gr CD in Clear Ballistics Gel



Test Gun: Colt Delta Elite.
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Hornady 10mm 175gr Critical Duty FTX.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Five shot velocity average: 1131fps.
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

It would seem like I'm on a 10mm kick as of late and today is no exception. Today's offering is the Hornady 175gr Critical Duty. This round shot very nicely out of the Delta Elite. Recoil was not bad at all, but you could tell it wasn't as watered down as some 10mm's out there. The five shot group hit point of aim at 10 yards and there were no signs of overpressure, the cases and primers looked fine. The five shot average velocity of 1131fps was 29fps lower than the advertised of 1160fps.



Round one in the bare gel had a velocity of 1133fps and penetrated to 15 inches with a recovered expansion of .60 inches. Round two hit at 1141fps and penetrated to 17 inches with a recovered expansion of .58 inches.



In the gel covered in heavy clothing, the first round entered the block at 1150fps with a penetration of 17.5 inches and expansion of .57 inches. Number two went 17.25 inches, expanded to .55 inches, and had a velocity of 1169fps. Both of the rounds were recovered base forward.


 
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[5pins]

Test Gun: Delta Elite
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Federal 10mm 180gr Hydra-Shok (P10HS1).
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Five shot velocity average: 986fps
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

The latest installment in the 10mm is the Federal 180gr Hydra-Shok. I forgot to take a pic of the loaded ammo in front of the box and by the time I remembered I had shot up all the 20 rounds. I got an average velocity of 986fps with a high of 996 and a low of 980. I ended up shooting two five round groups at 10 yards because I lost the pic of the first five. Hence one of the reasons for running out of ammo for the box pic.



The first round in bare gel had a velocity of 995fps but exited the block at the 15-inch mark and was found on the floor next to me. For some reason, it took a left turn in the block and lost a small piece of the jacket at the 10.5-inch mark. It expanded to .71 inches. Round two hit the block at 990 fps and also penetrated to 15 inches and expanded to .68 inches and stayed in the block. The third round (I wanted to catch two in the block) impacted at 981fps, it to penetrated to 15 inches with a recovered diameter of .69 inches.



In the heavy clothing covered gel the first round penetrated to 20.75 inches and expanded to .55 inches with a velocity of 1003fps. Number two went a little deeper at 22.5 inches and expanded to .58 inches with a velocity of 990fps.

[Florida Yankee]

Any link to a Doubletap 230 grain 10mm gelatin test ?

I shot 2 pigs [emoji241] with them and I tell ya,,, wow ! Better than a .45 for certain !


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[5pins]

Any link to a Doubletap 230 grain 10mm gelatin test ?

I shot 2 pigs [emoji241] with them and I tell ya,,, wow ! Better than a .45 for certain !


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http://www.general-cartridge.com/blog/double-tap-10mm-and-45-acp-woods-loads

[Rojo27]

Test Gun: Colt Delta Elite.
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Hornady 10mm 175gr Critical Duty FTX.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Five shot velocity average: 1131fps.
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

It would seem like I'm on a 10mm kick as of late and today is no exception. Today's offering is the Hornady 175gr Critical Duty. This round shot very nicely out of the Delta Elite. Recoil was not bad at all, but you could tell it wasn't as watered down as some 10mm's out there. The five shot group hit point of aim at 10 yards and there were no signs of overpressure, the cases and primers looked fine. The five shot average velocity of 1131fps was 29fps lower than the advertised of 1160fps.

Round one in the bare gel had a velocity of 1133fps and penetrated to 15 inches with a recovered expansion of .60 inches. Round two hit at 1141fps and penetrated to 17 inches with a recovered expansion of .58 inches.

In the gel covered in heavy clothing, the first round entered the block at 1150fps with a penetration of 17.5 inches and expansion of .57 inches. Number two went 17.25 inches, expanded to .55 inches, and had a velocity of 1169fps. Both of the rounds were recovered base forward.

Lucky Gunner's test used a 4.6" barreled Glock and 5pins used a 5" 1911 platform but interesting to note that LG's velocity averaged almost 100fps less than these test results. 

[5pins]

Test Gun: Delta Elite
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Sellier & Bellot 10mm 180gr JHP.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Five shot velocity average: 1061fps
Gel Temperature: 73 degrees.

I have been using S&B primers for some time now and they have always performed well for me. My experience with their ammo, on the other hand, has been limited to some military surplus stuff some time ago. When I came across a discussion on the 10mm forum about this 10mm JHP I became interested, and the price was just under $16 for a box of 50. Until recently no one had any in stock but I was finally able to get some from Target Sports USA.


I got an average five-shot velocity of 1061fps, with a high of 1079fps and a low of 1048. This velocity was much lower than the advertised velocity of 1164fps. It's not rare for the manufacturer to inflate their velocity numbers but others have obtained numbers closer to the manufacturers claim. I shot another five rounds a few days later and still came up with an average of 1058fps. I also shot another pistol with some known ammo and it's numbers were right where they were supposed to be.



I wasn't able to use the chronograph so I don't have any velocity numbers for the induvial shots.


The first round in the bare gel penetrated to 14.75 inches and it expanded to.67 inches with a recovered weight of 175.6 grains. Round two penetrated to 12.25 inches, expanded to .68 inches and a weight of 176.2 grains. 



In the heavy clothed gel the first round penetrated to 16.25 inches, expanded to .64 inches and had a recovered weight of 178.1 grains. The second shot went 16 inches deep and also expanded to .64 inches and a recovered weight of 177.2 grains.

[Rojo27]

Thanks 5pins!!

It's definitely not XTP bullet and the velocity was very disappointing but the performance in gel looks pretty decent. 

[Chefgerg]

Thanks for taking time to do this test, I was hoping the velocities would be better but the gel tests were good.

[Rick R]

Thanks for doing these tests!

The S&B jhp load looks like it's in the Goldilocks range. Not too hot and not too cool, just right.   

[Mike_Fontenot]

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The S&B jhp load looks like it's in the Goldilocks range. Not too hot and not too cool, just right. 

I don't think you can get too hot.  I don't shoot anything but 200 gr Underwood in my Kimber 1911.  And nothing but Underwood ammo in my revolvers (except for my ultralight S&W 360sc .357 snubby ... Mid-range Federals are all I can take in that gun).

[Rojo27]

The S&B jhp load looks like it's in the Goldilocks range. Not too hot and not too cool, just right.   

Yea, not so much to me ...  If someone considers performance on par with 40 short & weak as representing Goldilocks zone, then this choice is good to go.  I already have a 40 S&W loaded with 40 S&W....  Always personal preference prevails but I like 10mm loaded with 10mm.  Don't have to be nuclar....  just loaded for legit 10mm.   

[Rick R]

Expansion and penetration are where they need to be with the S&B jhp load and 100 fps faster than the Short & Weak.  Where non-gun shooters had issues with the 1006 shooting 180gr @ 1200fps they did pretty well with the "FBI Lite" load of a 180gr @ 950fps out of the same gun.  Then when we went to actual .40 S&W pistols those same people had issues, again.

I like energetic ammo too but it's interesting to see loadings that mere mortals can handle do well when tested.  Remember Goldilocks was a little girl.   

[Jason B.]

Thanks for the review of the S&B ammo. I use this ammo for range practice and I'm a little surprised at the velocity, I thought it would be a little more. They feel fairly warm from my 29 and more like my UW 200 XTP load. Either way, they are accurate and cheap.