10mm gel tests

Ramjet · September 27 2016 08:50:45 PM MDT

Quote from: Raggedyman on February 11 2016 10:41:49 AM MST
Quote from: Ramjet on January 17 2016 03:07:56 PM MST
Quote from: Raggedyman on September 13 2015 12:41:48 PM MDT

Perfect for SD purposes in populated areas and it is devastating on game more so than it shows in gel....

Aboslutely not. The penetration is totally inadequate for any defensive purpose and inhumane for animals larger than a coyote.

Based on these gel tests-point taken....I carry 200 grain hard cast or 180 grain XTP as both have proven themselves on deer size game on numerous occasions with great results. SD unless bird hunting or woods walking is either My 1911 45 ACP Federal 230 grain or 1911 9MM loaded with 147 grain Federal. Thank you for all these tests they are great. If you need some plain base or HP from the Mihec mould PM me I will send them. Let me know and thanks for the work.

Intercooler · September 28 2016 04:27:53 AM MDT

Somewhat hotter retest of PPU. This is the current offering... thanks Andrew!

Rojo27 · October 25 2016 08:28:47 AM MDT

Another clear ballistics test of the 10mm Hornady 175gr Critical Duty.

With & without denim.

Intercooler · October 27 2016 10:15:40 AM MDT

It has gel... just behind Level 3 armor ${$default_shocked_smiley}$

The_Shadow · October 27 2016 12:19:44 PM MDT

Exactly what he said! ${$default_grin_smiley}$

Intercooler · October 27 2016 02:11:04 PM MDT

Is their any pointed rifle tip we could fit in a 10mm cartridge?

The_Shadow · October 27 2016 03:28:45 PM MDT

With the casing being 0.988" and the cartridge overall length being 1.260" it only leaves 0.272" outside that can be tapered to a point.

The crimp needs to be on the actual 0.400" section then to a point regardless of bullet length or weight.

Intercooler · October 28 2016 04:10:01 AM MDT

Is their anything legally where a MFG couldn't make one for sale? I bet Lehigh could make it!

Overkill338 · November 29 2016 06:18:12 AM MST

You are the chopping block? Haha, small world. I think I've watched all those videos. Aren't you part of full 30.com too?

The_Shadow · November 29 2016 07:12:16 AM MST

Quote from: Tic-Glock on November 29 2016 06:18:12 AM MST
You are the chopping block? Haha, small world. I think I've watched all those videos. Aren't you part of full 30.com too?

No Intercooler isn't Chopping Block, but Chopping Block is a member here on the forum...RaggedyMan.
However Intercooler has provided a bunch of stuff for the testing projects...

Raggedyman · April 18 2017 09:44:52 AM MDT

sgtbones · April 18 2017 04:16:19 PM MDT

Whats your ideal velocities for thr 180 gr gold dot.

Raggedyman · April 19 2017 10:05:03 AM MDT

For personal protection? I honestly think that .40 S&W is excellent for that task so "weak" 10mm loads are fine. I believe that the cost in muzzle blast and recoil isn't worth the gain in terminal effect for human targets. It's a lot more useful for woods defense.

5pins · March 24 2018 03:59:20 PM MDT

Winchester 10mm 200gr Black Talon in Clear Ballistics Gel

Test Gun: Colt Delta Elite.
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Winchester 10MM 200gr Black Talon SXT.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Gel Temperature: 70 degrees.

I remember when Winchester made the decision to discontinue the Black Talon line because of political pressure by people who vilified the round and made it sound like the deadliest bullet ever invented. People like Democrat Patrick Moynihan who described it as a buzz saw ripping through you on TV. So Winchester decided the best course of action was to stop making it. Of course, they really didn't stop making them, they just removed the black coating and renamed it. But before they were all gone I went to my favorite gun store, The White Elephant, to by a box.

The only caliber left was some 10MM. I didn't own a 10MM and didn't really have any desire to get one. Not that it really mattered, I just thought it would be cool to have some. Years later, last year, I picked up a used Colt Delta Elite.

The first round in bare gel had a velocity of 897fps it penetrated to 17 inches and expanded to .82 inches. Round two hit at 912fps with 16.25 inches of penetration and expanded to .84 inches.

In heavy clothing, the first round had a velocity of 944fps and penetrated to 16.5 inches. The expansion was uneven with only one side of the bullet extending outward to .70 inches. Round two went into the block at 992fps and penetrated to 17.75 inches. Like the first round, expansion was uneven at .65 inches.

http://www.general-cartridge.com/

Rojo27 · March 24 2018 06:31:10 PM MDT

Welcome 5pins..... Thanks for sharing. I noticed this test on AR15.com...
Certainly not ideal but even partially expanded with the 4 layers but would still have been effective.
Too slow, loaded at 40 S&W velocity... at true 10mm fps it would worked fine (imho).

They look mean... Love for Winchester to load Ranger T in 10mm (real 10mm) but won't hold my breath!