10mm gel tests

Started by Raggedyman, November 08 2012 09:34:21 AM MST

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4949shooter

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on April 18 2015 04:28:09 PM MDT
Quote from: 4949shooter on April 18 2015 04:22:57 PM MDT
Quote from: Rojo27 on April 18 2015 02:23:02 PM MDT
Cool shootingthebull410 10mm, Double Tap 165 grain Gold Dot test.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofCgLKpqt7c

Very nice performance.

They advertise 1400 fps out of a 5 inch barrel:

http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=134&product_id=591

It's fairly close, and looks like it pushes the bullet to edge.

How does the Nosler bullet compare?

In gel? I haven't seen it tested in 165 grain but I don't believe the Nosler is a bonded bullet.

Intercooler


Raggedyman

Outstanding! Glad to see him start testing 10mm.

Raggedyman


Rojo27

Hey Raggedyman,
Quite a few of us have been waiting for this test, thanks for doing it! 

Couple observations and questions about your assessment of this projectile (and ammo).
-1430 fps good bit slower than Intercoller's result.  Intercoller published mid 1550's fps or so I think, with his 4.75" EAA.  What is the barrel length of your test gun again?
-Pretty impressive wound channel with significant shrapnel and 19"+ total penetration..... But at $1.90 PER ROUND!  At that price point what does it give that other fine and less expensive options don't?
If money were no object: what does it do that nothing else does?  Would you carry it and in what application?

Thanks!


Intercooler

I can send one across again tomorrow to see what it gives.

Raggedyman

4.5" bbl

I don't think it's really that great at anything. I'd you wanted something to drive deep, a 220 gr hard cast will go deeper. If you want something to really jack up the first few inches, a 135 gr JHP will do more damage. On the other hand, it does seem to jack things up pretty well and penetrate pretty well. Maybe a short of Swiss Army round.

Dave84

I know its just .25 ". Do you think the polygonal riffleling has something to do with this velocity deviation? As far as damage goes this gives you that 135 grain damage and a core to hit your vitals and even exit your body. Like having your cake and eating it.

Raggedyman

No, it shouldn't make that much difference. Probably  just a combination of a round on the low side of the statistical curve and the slightly reduced velocity from the slightly shorter barrel. It is also possible that the one I got was from a different batch. Hard to say without a five shot average.

Intercooler


4949shooter

That was interesting.

Kind of a non-standard 10mm load to test though.

The_Shadow

I was just posting on FB about this...
Me
QuoteThe 10mm may have inverted on the heavy denim, thus no expansion. I never liked the 10mm Critical Defense projectile, the HP cavity needs to be wider and the angle should be steeper. I'd rather the Gold Dots!

QuoteEAA Firearms I think it was velocity related. Just doesn't work in a short barrel.

Me
QuoteThat too, need 800X to gain the velocity from short barrel
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Raggedyman

#447
Critical defense 9mm typically fails to meet penetration standards and this is no exception. I recommend that everyone stay away from the critical defense line. The Critical Duty line is good to go, though. The 175 gr Critical Duty is one of a very few factory 10mm rounds that are really well suited to defense.


Intercooler

#448
PPU and Doubletap 180gr Montana Gold




Anyone catch the crazy Doubletap ratings... 1305 FPS and the other side is 1136 FPS? LOL

Flip a coin  ;)

Raggedyman

What's the most recent velocity figure on the PPU stuff? Didn't they up their game since my test?

It's probably not intentional, but I thought I should point out that he refers to the gel as "gelatin" in the video and calls it "10% gel" in the description but it is obviously the Clearballistics product. That should still give a reasonably accurate result, but it won't be the same as real gelatin at higher velocities. Not trying to talk down the guy's work, just want to make sure that's out there.