10mm gel tests

[Raggedyman]

Now I'm starting to second guess myself. Maybe somehow I put reloads in the box and forgot. I don't really do that sort of thing but I suppose anything is possible. Maybe an erroneous chrono reading but the two velocities were very close to each other.

[Raggedyman]

[mag360]

Thank you! The re test confirms that the 175gr 10mm is actually a shallow penetrator vs the standard 40 cal version as it matches your previous numbers almost exactly.  Also the all coppers did well amd performed similar to other tests ive seen.  I really appreciate all the time it takes to do these.

[Intercooler]

He has a couple more to bump up the velocity with. Let's see if it changes anything!

[The_Shadow]

More great test! Thanks!   I like those TAC XP bullets, but they are on the pricey side. 

Where as the G2 RIP are even higher priced and they mentioned they will have the 10mm ammo coming out very soon!  I just don't think that they will be all that as the shed the trocars.  They posted a pictures of X-Rays where they took a hog with a 9mm.  Showing the trocars spread throughout the chest cavity.  I would have rather seen a video of the effects as it happened and how humane the kill was. 

[Raggedyman]

Gimmick ammo. Shooting the bull did a gelatin test of it and showed it to be about the same performance as a couple .22s but with shallower penetration.

[The_Shadow]

Raggedyman, my feelings exactly about the G2 RIP ammo...I still like the 156gr Devastators for what they bring to the party, they make their own fragments and cost nearly nothing to make!

[Raggedyman]

Just remember that I only tested one shot at one velocity. It's possible that the one shot I made was a statistical anomaly or that it only functions that way within a narrow velocity window. It could be that 20 feet further down range, the expanded portion doesn't break off and the projectile stops short with poor penetration.

Still pretty cool but fragmentation is a really unpredictable mechanism.

[Rojo27]

Where as the G2 RIP are even higher priced and they mentioned they will have the 10mm ammo coming out very soon!  I just don't think that they will be all that as the shed the trocars.  They posted a pictures of X-Rays where they took a hog with a 9mm.  Showing the trocars spread throughout the chest cavity.  I would have rather seen a video of the effects as it happened and how humane the kill was. 

Decent amount of INDEPENDENT testing of overhyped G2 RIP ammo available: none of it impressive.  Trocars usually penetrate 3 or 4" in gel and the (approx .22 cal) small slug carries on like FMJ. 

Even the concept of "proof of performance" they're attempting to portray as described by Shadow is simply ridiculous.  Not much to killing caged or tied up pig (easily accomplished even with a .22).  As for actually hunting wild hog of almost any size with a 9mm....  It would be wise to have a trauma kit and a paramedic on hand.

[Pinsnscrews]

What would be of interest to me would be a test of the Rainier Played hollow points, but at different speeds. Rainier says, like Berry's, not to load over 1250fps.

So, it would be interesting to me to see what the round does at say, 1100fps+/- , 1200fps+/- and 1300fps +/-

I have a fresh box of rainiers I could donate about 25 for the testing. I would offer powder, but sadly, I have a quarter pound or so left of longshot and no other real pistol powders (imr4227 is my next fastest powder)

[Intercooler]

Did you view the Atomic Ammo video of the 180gr Hex Plated?

[sqlbullet]

... sadly, I have a quarter pound or so left of longshot and no other real pistol powders (imr4227 is my next fastest powder)

I hear ya.  I need some 1680 to kick off my 300 blackout load party.  Can't be had locally, and I don't wanna pay a hazmat fee on a lb of powder.

[Pinsnscrews]

Did you view the Atomic Ammo video of the 180gr Hex Plated?

Yes which is what piqued my interest. In the atomic load, it fragmented pretty good from what I interpreted. I don't want a fragmented hollow point. If the testing shows 1200 is the sweet spot, then cool, if it shows that one out of 5 rounds fragments at 1300, even better, but if 1100 offers good penetration past 12 inches and opens well, it would be good to know to save some grains of powder.

[Intercooler]

  Most of the non-mainstream HP's seem to fragment or come apart at 10mm velocity. If you are looking for a component bullet you might want to look at the Montana Gold or Sierra Power Jacket:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/432339/sierra-sports-master-bullets-40-s-and-w-10mm-auto-400-diameter-180-grain-jacketed-hollow-point-box-of-100

[Geeman]

I'm fairly impressed with the 155g Montana Gold video.  For the price of that bullet that is pretty decent, but I question if the shot to shot consistency would measure up. 

Greg