10mm gel tests

[Raggedyman]

I filter the gelatin every time I remelt it but some of the dye from the denim and some of the really fine dirt and lead dust makes it through the filter. I use one of those very fine mesh "permanent" coffee filters. Pretty soon I'll have to toss this batch and make another.

I still haven't bought a hunt and fish license. I have made some progress on loads for that poodle shooter, though. 23.7 gr of 8208 under a 69 gr Nosler did a really good group.

[The_Shadow]

The penetration was not what I expected, however lower velocity and it appears that round ball struck the rear of the 135 gr Nosler, this may have turned it sideways as it entered the gel. 

Once again another great test...Thanks! 

[Raggedyman]

[445 supermag]

RM,

First I would just like to thank you for all your work a d everyone who has contributed to this great thread.

I would like to ask you a question from your very first video on page 1.   180 gr. GDHP at 1300+ fps I saw pictures but no measurements or penetration depths.

Reason I ask is that I just picked up 400 of these GDHP 180 gr and was wondering what would be the best velocity to run these little jems for peek performance?


Thanks

[Dave84]

Dying to see the Crossfire Black Max.

[Intercooler]

Me too and the 1400 FPS 155gr all coppers.

[Raggedyman]

RM,

First I would just like to thank you for all your work a d everyone who has contributed to this great thread.

I would like to ask you a question from your very first video on page 1.   180 gr. GDHP at 1300+ fps I saw pictures but no measurements or penetration depths.

Reason I ask is that I just picked up 400 of these GDHP 180 gr and was wondering what would be the best velocity to run these little jems for peek performance?


Thanks

Sorry about that. I didn't notice. Here's the video and the numbers. I'll go back and add it at the beginning. I also tested a .40 S&W 180 gr Gold Dot from a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 day before yesterday and I've just been too busy to post the video yet. It should be up later today but here's a spoiler: I got about 1,300 fps from .40 S&W out of a 16" barrel.

10mm 180 gr Speer Gold Dot over 10.1 gr 800-X. Impact velocity is 1,317 fps. Fired through four layers of denim. BB calibration 594.9 fps, 3.25"

This is the bullet Underwood uses for their "bonded" load and at the same velocity.

Penetration 11.25"
Max expansion: 0.937"
Min expansion: 0.546"
Retained weight: 179.1 gr


ETA: I see what's going on here. The "picture" you see is an embedded video. It may not be playing nicely with the browser you're using. If it's working properly, you just click in the middle of it and it will play. Data is presented at the end of each of my videos and in the comments section on the YouTube page. If an embedded video in a forum doesn't work right for you, though, you can quote the post so you get the plain text and copy the URL into your browser. Alternatively, you can just copy the string of gobbletygook after the youtu.be/ for short YouTube links or after the = symbol for the long format and paste that character string into the YouTube search bar at youtube.com. In the case of this video, the character string is "RuGFfgZb5a0"

[macc283]

Tnoutdoors9 got 17+ in penetration with the underwood 180gd on YouTube.

[chucky2]

Wow, almost an inch of expansion...nice!

[MOUNTAIN WILLIAM]

Gentlemen, others have said it and I'm going to repeat it, "Outstanding!"

You've not only provided the information and gel tests to help 10mm owners decide on the proper loads to use for their intended applications but you've saved us a ton of money in the process. Personally I'm switching from Black Talons to Underwood 155gr XTP's for my Witness Stock carry piece.

Keep up the great work, it's appreciated more than you know.

[Raggedyman]

Tnoutdoors9 got 17+ in penetration with the underwood 180gd on YouTube.

He doesn't use gelatin. He used Simtest in his earlier tests and currently uses Cleargel. Even when calibrated gelatin is used, there can be some variation from shot to shot. It's *usually* no more than an inch or so but there are times where the variation is quite a bit more. I recently tested the same bullet from .40 S&W out of a 16" carbine and it produced roughly the same velocity but much more penetration. I also tested 11.7" and 14.4" from the same load, same day, same block of gelatin. That's why professional testing is usually done with five shots to establish a statistically relevant average.

Thanks for watching guys, and here's this week's test:

[4949shooter]

Wow the weather looks great out there!

This is what we are dealing with in the northeast:

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[Dann Fassnacht]

10mm Hornady 175 gr Critical Duty fired from 4.5" EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 580.1 fps, 3.4"


Impact velocity: 1,119 fps
Penetration: 13.1"
Retained weight: 175.0 gr (counting the 2.0 gr rubber tip)
Max expansion: 0.652"
Min expansion: 0.566"

This is the load I carry in my Glock 20F.

[Dave84]

Thx for showing the Black Max. Wasn't the miracle I thought it would be. Kind of a cool looking novelty item.

[mag360]

I wish the 10mm hornady had gone about 16". im surprised it didnt since expansion was about .65 avg.  current carry load in g20sf though.