10mm gel tests

[Raggedyman]

My pleasure. You'd have to ask Intercooler which kind.

[Raggedyman]

10mm 156 gr Lyman Devastator hand load fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 587.3, 3.6"

Impact velocity: 1,450 fps
Penetration: 13.7"
Retained weight: N/A
Expansion: N/A

This bullet definitely lived up to it's name. Like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. I just couldn't stop taking pics of this one. The deepest recovered fragment only weighed 22.5 gr and measured 0.616" x 0.307" x 0.110" but that fragment plus all the strained fragments (45.6 gr) only adds up to 68.1 gr, leaving 87.9 gr unaccounted for. If you look closely, you can see the mark where a fragment left the block at around the 13" mark, just before the last fragment that is in the block. I believe this to be the core, which should weigh in the neighborhood of 87 gr. Hopefully I can test again to confirm this.

10mm 195 gr Mihec cast LHP (shallow pin) fired from 4.25" S&W 1076 through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 587.3 fps, 3.6"

Impact velocity: 1,100 fps
Penetration: 26.6"
Retained weight: 192.2 gr

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9mm Underwood 115 gr Zero JHP fired from Glock 22 with Lone Wolf 9mm conversion barrel through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 587.3 fps, 3.6"

Impact velocity: 1,234 fps
Penetration: 18.6"
Retained weight: 92.5 gr

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[The_Shadow]

That 156 gr Devastator would be a surgeon's night mare trying to find at the frag-nasty pieces! 

[4949shooter]

That devastator was awesome. It even had 13" of penetration.

The Zero JHP from Underwood did not do well. Is this what Kevin is loading now in 9mm?

[Intercooler]

   That Zero 9mm is an Underwood original when Kevin loaded 9mm in once fired. Long ago!

[4949shooter]

Fair enough.

And thanks for the tests, Andrew.

[Raggedyman]

My pleasure.

[BlueLineFish]

Is their anybody who makes factory ammo with those devastator bullets

[The_Shadow]

Is their anybody who makes factory ammo with those devastator bullets

Not that bullet in particular.  Those were cast from an OBSOLETE Lyman 10mm/40cal single cavity mold, I was lucky enough to purchase as New Old Stock.  It was my intention to be able to sustain my needs if the SHTF!    The ones used in the jel test, I sent to Raggedyman to play and test with.

There are some mold companies which have modified or cut their own HP molds with various Hollow Pointer pins and designs. 
Lyman still sells the 9mm, 45ACP, 44cal line of Devastator HP molds...All are great bullets...
10mm/40cal

45ACP is

44Mag

[Raggedyman]

You would have to check that the ratio is the same that Shadow used. Speaking of which, what ratio, cooling, hardness did you use, Shadow?

[The_Shadow]

Those were straight Wheel Weight and air cooled around 12-14 BNH from what I recall.  I can cast them softer using straight lead and some tin added, but hey they are what they are.  Lead injectable SHTF supplies...

[Raggedyman]

I think they did fantastically as is. Further testing will confirm but it looks like they go off like a bomb, shedding the forward portion of the bullet and the core continues on to more than 12". If they do that consistently, I'd call  that a suitable defense load. Thanks for the info, I'll update the description.

[The_Shadow]

I think they did fantastically as is. Further testing will confirm but it looks like they go off like a bomb, shedding the forward portion of the bullet and the core continues on to more than 12". If they do that consistently, I'd call  that a suitable defense load. Thanks for the info, I'll update the description.

Coming from you and knowing how much stuff you have tested, I can accept that as a distinguishable defensive Zombie Killer! 

[Raggedyman]

Thank you for the vote of confidence.

[Raggedyman]

10mm 200 gr cast softened point fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin. The bullet was water dropped and then the point was softened by hitting it with a propane torch while the base of the bullet remained in a water bath. 16-18 BHN. I apologize for the quality of the video. My main camera failed to record and I didn't notice I had the backup set to low quality. Let me know if you like the angle, though because I was thinking about including this angle along with my normal format. At higher quality, of course.

BB: 588.7, 3.1"

Impact velocity:  1,140 fps
Penetration: 28.1"
Retained weight: 203.1 gr
No expansion