Colt delta or EAA witness Tanfoglio steel?

Started by Arctic_fox, August 19 2016 06:09:38 PM MDT

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PCFlorida

I have a DE, an RIA, a couple of Glocks and a Sig. I'm 56 and have been shooting since i was 8. I was on a national team and achieved NRA Distinguished Expert at age 14. My point is I know a bit about firearms. I'm no expert and I don't write for magazines, but I know a few things. One of those would be that as much fun as the DE is to shoot, I don't feed it what I can feed my RIA, my Sig and my Glocks. It isn't made for a diet of 1200+ 200 grain XTP's. I'm nice to it and it is nice to me. It still shoots more powerful loads than a .40 S&W, but I don't expect it to handle the hard stuff.

Oh, and I wouldn't say that Intercooler is full of crap either. As one of the people who make this board possible he deserves more respect than that. If I were in his shoes I would have banned you. But thats just me. You can disagree with someone without taking the low road.
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Intercooler

       No banning for that and I thankfully don't have the rights, or want to do those chores. I'm no expert either, but have owned one 1911 10mm and several Witness pieces. I treat it like we are going to the range in a car discussing the two we are about to shot based on my knowledge of them. One or the other still might not work for you when we actually run them through the mill. It wouldn't bother me if you went for the Colt!

01deuce

The obvious answer is both. After all this is a forum dedicated to 10mm, not a particular manufacturer.

I have a couple witnesses and a Delta. Love them both! As well as a Sig & S&W.
  The new this year Delta addresses many issues people had except for the barrel. Through my research I have found it to be a non issue shooting Underwood, which is plenty hot for me.


hikfromstik

Intercooler is a legend.  Before I ever came to this site I was reading his reviews on ammo .

sqlbullet

Takes quite a bit to get a banning around here.  Look through some of the political discussions and you can see that.  Generally you have to start taking specific repeated runs at a person for no good reason.

In general when the errant post goes up, lost of the conventional wisdom comes to the rescue.  That is what happened here.  Some people are very brand loyal.  I grew up in Chevy country as a toyota man, and I get that whole thing.  Intercooler is a solid guys and he took this like a champ.  Hat is off to him  for all he does around here.  I will never match his post or topic counts, best I can do is try to stay ahead of him in time on forum.

sliclee, I hope you aren't taking this too hard either.  Everyone has their bias and point of view.

14 GT-500

Go for the new Colt Delta, you won't be sorry.

briansayler

I'm going to shift the discussion a little bit from the question the OP asked.  Sorry in advance for going off-topic slightly.

Like the OP, I'm trying to make up my mind on which 10MM to buy.  My conundrum isn't between the DE and the Tanfoglio.  I'm debating between the EAA Witness P Carry and possibly a Glock 20.  I've even considered the Glock 40 and the RIA.  I think my real choice is narrowed to the Witness P and the G20.

I don't think this will be a regular carry gun, just something for the range and maybe occasionally for carry.  I'm motivated primarily by price, but I want something that will last.

As a side note, how readily available are magazines for the Witness?  And what do they cost?

sqlbullet

Brian, unless you don't like Glock's, then I think it is the clear choice.  The witness full size is a solid gun, but the carry model can have some issues running hotter ammo.  Lack of slide mass. 

The Glock on the other hand will run anything, has a HUGE aftermarket and can be found if you shop and wait for about $400.  That is what I paid for mine, and not that long ago.

So unless you don't like GLock, which is fine, it is a hard choice to beat.

Dave84

I 2nd that on the Glock. If you consider standard full size then you pretty much have a draw. One thing though, the finish on the Glock is much tougher.

yfdcap

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I continue to shoot anything and everything through my two Delta's.  I will shoot the Underwood that states not to shoot through Delta's also if I chance on some.  I have never had a issue with my Delta's.  My stainless Delta gets shot a lot.  My everyday working load is a 180 grain running around 1300 fps. I have shot hotter and lighter also.
   The very early Delta's had a couple frames crack around the window before it was cut.  That has been way over sold through the years.  The same pic has been reposted over and over.  In my experience the non-ramped barrel is only a issue if you are running VERY hot ammo and need to reuse your brass.  It can be a little hard on it.  Only the really hot stuff though in my experience. So can some of the ramped barrels also though.  I am never afraid of these guns blowing up.  Not afraid of it with any of my 10's.  I do set them all up properly with correct springs for loads being shot. People I have seen have most problems with 1911 10's are running them out of the box stock with no mods and a steady diet of real hot stuff.  With a couple minor mods 1911's will run with the best of them.  In my experience.

14 GT-500

I think the New Colt Delta Elite is one fine 10mm, I have the older style that I bought in Dec 2015 and love it. Now I am thinking about buying the new style :) When I go out to my backyard range, the 10mm Colt Delta is what I grab 85% of the time, so that should say something.

yfdcap

Quote from: 14 GT-500 on September 24 2016 07:05:18 AM MDT
I think the New Colt Delta Elite is one fine 10mm, I have the older style that I bought in Dec 2015 and love it. Now I am thinking about buying the new style :) When I go out to my backyard range, the 10mm Colt Delta is what I grab 85% of the time, so that should say something.
The new one is a dandy.  I have resisted so far but will give in soon.  Its like they read my mind of all the changes I would like to see.

dakota1911

With that much money you might also look at a DW Bruin.
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Steve_McQueen

I just put 100 rounds through my Delta Elite XE today and OMG any one who thinks these are not accurate is crazy...at least the 2016 model... Im in love with it!

14 GT-500

Thats what I have been saying all along !! It's one hell of a gun ramp barrel or not  :)