Colt delta or EAA witness Tanfoglio steel?

Arctic_fox · August 23 2016 04:15:34 AM MDT

Quote from: macc283 on August 22 2016 03:50:47 PM MDT
What Glock did you own that blew up?

I didnt own it i was test firing a brand new one at the range getting ready to buy it, I believe it was a glock 26, I do remimber it was a 9mm, But it was a while ago and my mom was handing me guns to try as for my 18th she was getting me a handgun so im not 100% sure off the top of my head ill ask her next time i talk to her.

But using the ammo the shop provided the entire left side turned into a frag granade and turned the entire top of my hand into hamburger and half severed 2 fingers and the tip of my right thumb, as i said before not the best introduction to handguns.

TonyRumore · August 23 2016 05:08:43 PM MDT

I bought a Delta Elite when they first came out in the 80's. I've owned hundreds of guns in my time, and it was by far the least accurate gun I have ever owned. The thing shot patterns, not groups. I imagine the new ones must be better...........

I also have a large frame steel Witness. What I like about the Witness most is the fact that I can order all sorts of different barrels and slides from EAA and configure it anyway I like. I can convert mine to 22LR, 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 SW, 10mm, 40 Super, and 45 ACP.

Tony

Intercooler · August 23 2016 05:43:26 PM MDT

That's a pretty nice collection you have going there!

Arctic_fox · August 23 2016 11:59:44 PM MDT

Quote from: TonyRumore on August 23 2016 05:08:43 PM MDT
I bought a Delta Elite when they first came out in the 80's. I've owned hundreds of guns in my time, and it was by far the least accurate gun I have ever owned. The thing shot patterns, not groups. I imagine the new ones must be better...........

I also have a large frame steel Witness. What I like about the Witness most is the fact that I can order all sorts of different barrels and slides from EAA and configure it anyway I like. I can convert mine to 22LR, 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 SW, 10mm, 40 Super, and 45 ACP.

Tony

Very nice! That was something i didnt know you could do and is one hell of a way to increase the size of my rather small collection without breaking the bank, I should be getting my witness in a few weeks here when im back from this otr trip and ill post images.

Also at mcc it was infact a glock 26 i checked today.

Intercooler · August 24 2016 03:09:02 AM MDT

I'm still kicking my ass about not holding on to my Hunter .45 upper to .460 Rowland it. I don't have regrets about any decisions except that one!

blaster · August 24 2016 06:23:00 AM MDT

will the Hunter slide fit on the standard frame?

sqlbullet · August 24 2016 08:20:55 AM MDT

Quote from: Arctic_fox on August 23 2016 11:59:44 PM MDT
...is one hell of a way to increase the size of my rather small collection without breaking the bank...

Don't be too quick to judge on that one. EAA is raping people these days on the price of kits and parts. A conversion kit costs as much as a whole new Witness. For the price of a Witness Steel in 10mm and a 9mm or 45 upper, you could buy two Glocks and some ammo.

Intercooler · August 24 2016 09:24:44 AM MDT

It's unfortunate to say, but EAA is pricing out of the running anymore. It's sad that buying a whole new pistol is almost the better option.

gcw16 · August 24 2016 09:41:15 AM MDT

The .22 kits are still very reasonable. I recently got one for my Elite Match 10mm for $150. I had several malfunctions the first 150-200 rounds but it is working much better now and it is more accurate than I expected. I would really like a .357 SIG conversion for this gun.

Dave84 · August 24 2016 11:31:44 AM MDT

I own the two witness guns you've mentioned. While the Match has a much nicer trigger, it weighs quite a bit more with some pretty sharp edges. Though, I'd rather shoot the Match, I would rather carry the standard full size.

sqlbullet · August 24 2016 03:03:51 PM MDT

Quote from: Dave84 on August 24 2016 11:31:44 AM MDT
Though, I'd rather shoot the Match, I would rather carry the standard full size.

Agree 100%.

sliclee · September 05 2016 02:10:38 PM MDT

I think intercooler is full of crap. The sky is falling the sky is falling--The frames that cracked on Colt 10's were because of a piece remaining on the first few CDE's. Everyone loves to knock COLT-after the frame was modified it never happened again, but you all are still running in circles.
You can NEVER compare a CDE to a glock, are you'll kidding.
My CDE will shoot circles around any other 10 out there stock out of the box. OH I FORGOT THE BARREL ISNT SUPPORTED WHEN DID YOU SEE YOUR LAST
CDE.
I even heard of some glock shooters trying to resize a empty 10 fired from a glock, you have to first buy a special made pre resize die before you can resize it and it comes with a warning. Don't buy a 10 if you can't afford it. Making a 45 1911 into a 10 isn't exactly a safe way to go.

sqlbullet · September 05 2016 04:30:10 PM MDT

Wow....Uh...Ok.

Hate to break it to you Sliclee, but for the price of a Colt Delta Elite, I can pick up a Glock 20 and a couple caliber conversion barrels, or the same in a Witness. And I won't ever have to wonder about the Underwood ammo I shoot in my gun.

I had a Delta Elite, and it was a fine gun for 1992 when I bought it. But it is the same gun today. Still no high ride, still not extended thumb safety, and still no ramped fully supported barrel.

And mine did have the occasional jam, which my Glock and Witness don't. Your Delta Elite may be great and may well have never failed you. But if we go the range with ten each Glock 20 and Delta Elite, and burn 1,000 rounds through each...Well, the statistics won't be on your side.

Again, not saying it isn't a fine firearm. But all guns have a measurable stoppage rate, and an average sampling of Delta Elites is going to lose to an average sampling of Glock 20's in MRBS, probably by an order of magnitude.

Intercooler · September 05 2016 04:43:42 PM MDT

I must have posted at the same time and it got lost.

Exactly what part was full of crap? It's a fact the frames cracked and they fixed it (stated that). It's a fact the barrel is unramped (stated that) and to the best of my current knowledge they never fixed it. I can't say the same for at least a half dozen other 10mm 1911's. I have no idea if you could load up some 230gr Hardcast Doubletap in one and mow through 100 or more rounds without a hiccup.
Everyone has something they like and I say have at it! The OP was asking about the two and IMO (me), the Witness has much more positive points than the Delta Elite.

PCFlorida · September 05 2016 05:06:20 PM MDT

I have a DE, an RIA, a couple of Glocks and a Sig. I'm 56 and have been shooting since i was 8. I was on a national team and achieved NRA Distinguished Expert at age 14. My point is I know a bit about firearms. I'm no expert and I don't write for magazines, but I know a few things. One of those would be that as much fun as the DE is to shoot, I don't feed it what I can feed my RIA, my Sig and my Glocks. It isn't made for a diet of 1200+ 200 grain XTP's. I'm nice to it and it is nice to me. It still shoots more powerful loads than a .40 S&W, but I don't expect it to handle the hard stuff.

Oh, and I wouldn't say that Intercooler is full of crap either. As one of the people who make this board possible he deserves more respect than that. If I were in his shoes I would have banned you. But thats just me. You can disagree with someone without taking the low road.