November Election

Started by Patriot, August 05 2016 08:33:32 AM MDT

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Patriot

We sure are in one heck of a predicament. Looks like Hillary is going to win big. She's so high up in the polls, even if she falls she'll still be ahead.

So where does that leave us gun owners? Her Supreme Court picks could be devastating for the 2nd amendment. 

Trump has shot himself in the ass. I really hoped he could shut his mouth and ride his small lead to a victory.

But he blew it.

Our only hope is that he drops out if his poll numbers fall too low, in time for the RNC to pick a new candidate.  Or we all must make the decision to support Johnson.

If we continue to support Trump and he loses (very likely) we put the final nail in our own coffin.

The_Shadow

Yep, this is how I see things in the political arena;
The web of corruption is woven across all branches of the obsessive, overbearing, big, greedy government going wild for power and control!
It becomes a matter of unjustly tipping the scales of Justice and just like that our rights will be destroyed by such a government no longer controlled by we the people!
Wake up! Because it is happening this year, this election cycle!
If Hillary is elected, our government will shift to a socialist / communist regime!
The people will become totally enslaved by the government masters!
STOP THE ENSLAVEMENT....
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BEEMER!

Trump has really blown his lead!  The Democrats put on a very well planned Convention and went from one voter group to the next with speakers to capture their support and it seems to have worked.

Clinton went on Fox Sunday morning and continued to lie about the FBI investigation and not a word about it from the Trump camp.  The GDP was up a dismal 1.2% in the second quarter and Trump continues his bickering with the Khan family.

Trump has seven weeks to clear up his miss-steps and prepare for the first debate.  Either he shows up strong that night or he's done.  I have not heard who the Moderators for that debate will be, but that will be important for Trump.

Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: Patriot on August 05 2016 08:33:32 AM MDT
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Trump has shot himself in the ass. I really hoped he could shut his mouth and ride his small lead to a victory.
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I think, and hope, that you are wrong.  The only chance we've got, I believe, is if he DOESN'T shut his mouth.  And it sure seems to me that the Dems (and the press) are REALLY afraid of him ... and they haven't been afraid of Republicans in a long time.

If Hillary wins, we (and the 2nd amendment) are doomed.

my_old_glock

Quote from: The_Shadow on August 05 2016 08:37:12 AM MDT
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Wake up! Because it is happening this year, this election cycle!
If Hillary is elected, our government will shift to a socialist / communist regime!
The people will become totally enslaved by the government masters!
STOP THE ENSLAVEMENT....


"IT" has been happening for over 100 years. Read some old anti-communist writings from the 1920's and 1930's. There is plenty of evidence of what "their" plan was all along.


Quote from: BEEMER! on August 05 2016 09:30:46 AM MDT
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Trump has seven weeks to clear up his miss-steps and prepare for the first debate.  Either he shows up strong that night or he's done.  I have not heard who the Moderators for that debate will be, but that will be important for Trump.

SO if someone decides Trump lost the debate, we have to vote for Hillary?

I am going to vote for whomever I want to. I am not going to let some over paid clown tell me who to vote for.



tommac919

It's not over yet....

If the monkeys get their act together and start supporting each other, it can ( the polls ) get back to 48% each.

Where Trump has to go is against Hillabag and stick to that topic without getting side tracked... that plus pulling back more of the independents ( who I think will ultimately be the deciding group to swing one way or other )

Mike_Fontenot


I think and hope Trump can get almost every voter (no matter how blue they may be) to ask themselves one simple question: "Are you tired of being fed "verbal pablum" by your politicians"?

Trump doesn't feed verbal pablum.

Buckeye 50

This is EXACTLY what the idiot liberal media want you to believe - that Hillary is unstoppable and everyone else should just quit and save everyone the time and energy.......................


Donald has to get his ass in gear and stop this silly, high school one-upsmanship and hammer the real topics.


Pat
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

John F. Kennedy

BEEMER!

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Quote from: my_old_glock on August 05 2016 11:28:45 AM MDT

Quote from: BEEMER! on August 05 2016 09:30:46 AM MDT
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Trump has seven weeks to clear up his miss-steps and prepare for the first debate.  Either he shows up strong that night or he's done.  I have not heard who the Moderators for that debate will be, but that will be important for Trump.

SO if someone decides Trump lost the debate, we have to vote for Hillary?

I am going to vote for whomever I want to. I am not going to let some over paid clown tell me who to vote for.



I was not saying that at all.  Hillary is starting with between 35 and 40% of the vote no matter what she does or says. 

Trump probably has 30 % and he will need to convince more than half the rest to vote for him and not Clinton.  A big share of those will decide on the debate turns out.

blaster

don't believe the propaganda! look at the way the media & Dems have been lying  about and blowing everything out of portion to try to make Trump look bad. they won't even report the huge crowds at Trump rallies and empty seats at Hillary's rallys. it don't matter what Trump says. good or bad its going to be twisted to bad. polls are easily manipulated too. the left are masters of deception. (how else could Hillary not be in prison by now?)  one of Trump's main selling points is that he is not a P.C. carrier politician. he says what usually needs to be said. we have NO other choice but to take our chances with Trump. we don't know what kind of President he will be but we sure do know what kind of President Hillary will be!

BEEMER!

Quote from: blaster on August 05 2016 03:40:23 PM MDT
don't believe the propaganda! look at the way the media & Dems have been lying  about and blowing everything out of portion to try to make Trump look bad. they won't even report the huge crowds at Trump rallies and empty seats at Hillary's rallys. it don't matter what Trump says. good or bad its going to be twisted to bad. polls are easily manipulated too. the left are masters of deception. (how else could Hillary not be in prison by now?)  one of Trump's main selling points is that he is not a P.C. carrier politician. he says what usually needs to be said. we have NO other choice but to take our chances with Trump. we don't know what kind of President he will be but we sure do know what kind of President Hillary will be!

I agree 100%.

Ari Fleischer said it best when asked by Mika Brzezinski if he could vote for Trump.

He said yes, but also said that Trump was his 17th choice of the Republicans candidates but Clinton was his 19th choice.

Yes, he would prefer Bernie over Hillary.

Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: blaster on August 05 2016 03:40:23 PM MDT
don't believe the propaganda! look at the way the media & Dems have been lying  about and blowing everything out of portion to try to make Trump look bad. they won't even report the huge crowds at Trump rallies and empty seats at Hillary's rallys. it don't matter what Trump says. good or bad its going to be twisted to bad. polls are easily manipulated too. the left are masters of deception. (how else could Hillary not be in prison by now?)  one of Trump's main selling points is that he is not a P.C. carrier politician. he says what usually needs to be said. we have NO other choice but to take our chances with Trump. we don't know what kind of President he will be but we sure do know what kind of President Hillary will be!

You NAILED it!!

The_Shadow

What if? ???  I do not know either of these people... :o

Another wild conspiracy theory?

Here's a very scary thought..............

I had to take my vehicle to the mechanic the other day for service. The Service Manager, Pete, gave me a ride home and on the way he told me his theory about the upcoming election and the next four years of U.S. government.
At first I thought it a bit far fetched. But as I listened to him it began to make sense, scary sense...
"I believe that Hillary Clinton will win the election in November," Pete began. "Then, sometime between November and January, Hillary will be indicted. The IRS is now investigating the Clinton Foundation and the whole e-mail thing isn't over yet."
"Once under indictment she won't be able to assume the Office of the President in January. Tim Kaine, who will not actually be the Vice President because neither he nor Hillary have been inaugurated, cannot assume the Presidency."
"The Speaker of the House can't move up to it because there is already a sitting President and Vice President. So President Obama, in an Executive Order citing "emergency situation," gives himself another four years in office is the only way possible."
Pete believes Obama has been planning this for a while now, knowing he has enough on Hillary to indict her. Had the Attorney General indicted her based on evidence from the FBI this plan wouldn't have worked because the DNC would have quickly come up with another candidate
If you think about it, it's not that outrageous. Many people on the left, including the President, want Obama to stay another four years. The law prohibits him from being re-elected so the only ways he can do it is by declaring martial law and suspending the election (which would be a very negative thing for the country) or to declare himself still President because the elected candidate cannot assume her duties.
The latter makes more sense and is actually more feasible. And since it's never been done before, it would set a precedent that would be difficult to challenge.
Of course, if Trump wins the election none of this is going to happen. But what if Pete is correct? Four more years of Obama and a mostly useless Republican House and Senate would give Obama the time he needs to continue destroying changing the country to fit his stated goals.
I thanked Pete for the ride home – and for messing up my day. Now I've got more things to worry about.
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inv136

This sounds very unlikely. If Obama declared Martial Law there would be enough lawsuits filed to make their way up to the Supreme Court that even the leftists justices who hate the idea of suspending "rights," especially Habeas Corpus, would declare an Obama Martial Law illegal and remove him from office, most likely resulting in the Speaker of the House taking over under whatever measures can be taken to properly fill the vacancy.

I think it's more likely that no matter what the IRS finds, Loretta Lynch will refuse to convene a Grand Jury. The only chance we have of Hillary Clinton being indicted is if Trump beats her in November and his new Attorney General is sworn into office. 

blaster

SHADOW- very interesting scenario! and it kinda goes along with my tin foil hat scenario.- Trump wins the election.   the Democraps give the word to the black lies matters to start the race war that they have been cultivating. Obozo has to declare Martial Law to stop it and he gets to stay in power.