Why not Gary Johnson?

[Geeman]

My own humble opinion...

The dividing this nation for political purpose plays into the hands of the power brokers.  Period.  End of story.

Sticking labels on others is destructive.  They are equal to you.  Your peers.  Created by the same creator, with the same rights.

I have really bad news for you.  Both parties lie to you.  Neither want what is best for you.  Sure, there are good people that get elected, but a vast majority of those good people become corrupt and serve their power brokers at the expense of those they were to serve.  The worship of money dominates.  They become bought and paid for.  They become slaves.

Wolfie, I don't like to call names, but I feel you are just a political hack.  Both parties are a fraud, not just one.  Both have been so far removed from the founding ideals that they should be hung for treason.  Both have tried to steal the power of the people and try to hide the truth from the masses.  All the proof is hidden in plain sight from those without the desire to discover it.  The more I discover, the more I know, the more disappointed I am, but the more I know who I am and how to stand.

I guess I have to suffer your nickle/dime politics for the next few months, but the truth doesn't change.

Greg

[Wolfie]

Greg you were doing real well before you called me a hack, when in fact I am a D by default since the GOP failed me in protecting Family Values, the Economy and War. What are they even good at? Getting poor whites to think they are better than the richest black?

Yeah I am a D and a hack, but I used to be a GOP hack until I woke up and saw the scam.

[Geeman]

Greg you were doing real well before you called me a hack, when in fact I am a D by default since the GOP failed me in protecting Family Values, the Economy and War. What are they even good at? Getting poor whites to think they are better than the richest black?

Yeah I am a D and a hack, but I used to be a GOP hack until I woke up and saw the scam.

If you claim to have woke up, why are you either a D or R?  If you have seen the scam, how can you support either. 

Back to the subject of "why not Gary Johnson?"  I think voting non-republican is good as much as voting non-democrat is great.  They both suck. 

Sometimes I enjoy seeing how blind some can be.  Who is the most racist, R of D?  I'm well removed from both, and democrats are far less tolerant to having blacks off the democratic plantation in my opinion.  I want free people that know how to remain free and race has nothing to do with that.  All should be self-governed. 

Libertarian probably describes me more than the other parties, but if it ever goes main stream, it will be corrupted too.

Greg 

[Wolfie]

I need to see what the D's platform on guns are before I choose. If they want to ban them then I will be voting for Johnson. I have no problem with background checks.

[NewShooter]

Shadow I will not counter your health insurance as you are the one that pays it. As for mine I was paying $10,000 a year for a family plan in 2000. It went up to $19,000 in Bush's last year and now its a shade under $22,000 with much better benefits.

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Do the math.....

They pay you that much to shill for Hill' in a group that doesn't even have 600 members? What would they have paid you if they thought you were good at this?


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[Wolfie]

Correct newshoooter, not as good as Ted Cruz.

[redbaron007]

Gary has some good ideas; but this is all he has. Heck, many folks on this form have good ideas; but that doesn't mean you have to vote for them for president. 

However, he has no chance of being elected.

Ever since politics came into play, many thousands of years ago, the one who is seeking office/position has to package themselves to the public and/or voting constituents. Gary has done nothing to package himself for the American people to take notice. If he was serious, he should have made a splash earlier on. Therefore, he is a foregone conclusion only to be trotted out by the liberals to help split/discourage the Republican voting block. Very similar to Ross Perot.

At this point in time there are two legitimate candidates for the presidency; Trump or Clinton. If a person wishes to vote their conscience, that is up to them. But unfortunately, if they don't vote for one of the two legitimate candidates, their vote helps to elect their nemesis.

I know and have heard all the complaints about our two party system and how it needs to be changed, and I don't necessarily disagree, but to change it will take time, most likely after many of us have taken a dirt nap. The process of correcting it, is starting at the local level.

Bottom line, we have system that favors two parties....those are the cards we are dealt with; we have to work within those cards and then try change it....but it can't be done overnight. In theory could it be done, uh...maybe. But there are too many variables that would need controlling that can't be; so theorizing is great coffee cup conversations.

We have an election in November that could have dramatic effects on the future of our kids, their kids and further generations. The incoming president will have to pick at least one Supreme Court Judge, if not more; this in itself is a major concern to vote for one of the two. The defense and protection of this country is at a cross roads. Divisiveness is creating havoc. The President coming in has a tall challenge and needs to have the resources and intellect to tackle these.

The question is, which candidate is the better candidate to lead our country out of the mess? Based upon the two candidates, Trump clearly has the edge.  With Hillary, we will have the same, if not worse circumstances than we have now.

I would trust Trump appointing the Supreme Court; I could not trust Hillary. There are several 2nd Amendment cases working their way through the system; another liberal justice could ring havoc with the 2A and our rights. This alone is enough to vote for Trump.

*Full disclosure, I did not support or vote for Trump in the primary. My guy was Rick Perry/Scott Walker.

Good day! 

[Patriot]

I'll make this easy for you.

Hillary Clinton is anti-gun. She will put anti-gun justices on the Supreme Court.

If you vote for Johnson, that's a vote that Trump doesn't get. In effect, you're voting against your own gun rights.

The choice is simple. The NRA endorsed Donald Trump. I will be voting for Donald Trump. He isn't perfect, but he's better than an anti-gun leftist loon like Hillary Clinton.

Voting for Hillary is a vote for gun control (directly). Voting for Johnson is a vote for gun control (indirectly).

[sqlbullet]

I am with Patriot on this one.

Voting for Hillary is a vote for gun control (directly). Voting for Johnson is a vote for gun control (indirectly).

That sums it up nicely.

I would love to see a two candidate system where we had no parties, open primaries to all voters, and then a run off between the two candidates with the most votes after the primaries.  That would eliminate the splintering of votes on "third party" candidates.

Of course that system would have likely given us two terms of Bush 1, no AWB in 1994, and who knows what after that.