Terrible Tragedy!

[Mr. AR50]

You can print a fully functional AR-15 at home.

We need to work on fixing people who would do these things.  Keeping tools away from tool makers will never work.

Sqlbullet, I agree with you, but we have to accept the fact that there is evil in this world, and some things cannot be fixed. Help those who can be helped, but be prepared to put the mad dogs down as well.

[DM1906]

"President Obama has the most border patrols and border security deployed at the border of any previous president," said Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla. in a June 20 interview on MSNBC. Obama "has cracked down employers -- on employers who are attracting undocumented immigrants and hiring them more than any previous president."

Because he NEEDED to, not that he wanted to!

An interview, on MSNBC, of Whatshername-Schultz speaks volumes. Fact: The border is NOT more secure now, than at any time. If there are fewer crossings at any time, DC has nothing to do with it. It's government math, and nothing more. The greatest border-crossing prevention in history is the Central Valley (CA) "drought" (which is caused by politics, not nature). There are less (illegal migrant worker) crossings, because there is less incentive. The drugs, on the other hand, are flowing as freely as ever (hint: drugs don't walk themselves across).

[Wolfie]

They count the border crossings the same way. Just like they count they count unemployment.

They have used the same standard for decades.

Perp was a religious far right conservative nut job.

It amazes me that some people think all Democrats are liberals when that is not the case and the same goes for fools who think all Republicans are conservative.

Conservative Republicans in my state passed strict gun laws, raise my taxes and spend worse than DC liberals.

[hikfromstik]

Killer was a registered democrat and voted Obama 2 times

[NewShooter]

They count the border crossings the same way. Just like they count they count unemployment.

They have used the same standard for decades.

Perp was a religious far right conservative nut job.

It amazes me that some people think all Democrats are liberals when that is not the case and the same goes for fools who think all Republicans are conservative.

Conservative Republicans in my state passed strict gun laws, raise my taxes and spend worse than DC liberals.

You argue like a democrat Wolfie. Are you sure Hillary's not your pal?



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[Wolfie]

I am a Democrat, used to be GOP for a long time. It was either talk radio or baseball in my office between calls. I thought the GOP was better at Foreign Policy, Economics and Family Values.

It was all a lie to get elected to get power to make cash.

Now riddle me this, in the 3 things I mentioned do you think the GOP is better at any?

[pacapcop]

Two headed snake. Just look at Ryan and the rest. Also known as NEOCONS. Picking fight's with Russia. Get's ya know where. Both party's are evil.

[NewShooter]

I am a Democrat, used to be GOP for a long time. It was either talk radio or baseball in my office between calls. I thought the GOP was better at Foreign Policy, Economics and Family Values.

It was all a lie to get elected to get power to make cash.

Now riddle me this, in the 3 things I mentioned do you think the GOP is better at any?

Why limit it to these three, Batman? Wouldn't it be better to ask something of relevance to the forum? Which of the two is better on securing your second amendment rights?

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[Wolfie]

Which party is better?

Hmmmm, Republicans in my state of NY. Voted to approve the SAFE Act, a anti gun law.

When the GOP held all branches under Bush did they pass National Reciprocity?

Heck Obama, yes Obama fixed HR 218.

You can TRUST Republicans, I never will.

[blaster]

but you trust the Democrats? I agree the Republican party is just a bunch of power hungry losers that only care about keeping their own power but so are the Democrats only worse! this was known many years ago when George Wallace said "theres not a dime's worth of different between the two". the ONLY reason I favor the Republicans is they are not AS BAD at violating our 2nd Amendment Rights. where as  taking away our guns is a MAJOR part of the Democrap agenda. if a politician doesn't trust me to own the firearm of my choice, I can't trust him to rule over me. the ONLY reason for gun control is to control the people! it has NOTHING to do with stopping crime or violence! Wolfie, your problem (the unSafe Act etc...) stems from the libertard voters in the Rotten Apple making the rules for the rest of the State. so of course the spineless NY Republicans are going to bend over for their wishes. go ahead and vote for the Hildabeast. but don't whine when you are no longer able to own firearms. or you get lumped into the same category as the "useful idiots" who gave the USA to the "New World Order". hate Trump all you want., many of us do, but he is the ONLY choice we have that is NOT beholding to the foreign interests that OWN the other candidates. but maybe you would prefer to live in an Amerika that is just like the rest of the 3rd world  shitholes that all the "refugees" are "escaping" from. as the Democtat icons Lennin and Alinsky have outlined, it is easier to control poor people. and they MUST be disarmed.

[The_Shadow]

Yes the was a very tragic event, the Islamic/Muslim movement is persistent in the use of carnage to further their wedge of changing the laws here, it the effort to push Sharia Law, which conflicts with so many of our established laws and way of life in the U.S..  The facts are coming out that this guy had been going to this location many times prior to the mass shootings, I see this as premeditated.  We are likely going to see more of these terror killings in the near future, because there are many of them inside our borders already!

The thread is going political and everyone's armchair quarterbacking this incident.  The current overbearing obsessive big greedy government gone wild for power and control over the people is out of control on all sides.  It will be up to "We The People" to Vote out those that don't work for the people as a nation.  Too many of the corrupt politicians have feathered their nest with corporate money, stocks and other end around gains.  They are suppose to work for the people we are their bosses.

[my_old_glock]

Killer was a registered democrat and voted Obama 2 times

The Killer was supposedly a homosexual and frequented that gay bar. That makes him a Republican also.



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[hikfromstik]

The trolls have entered the building

[Wolfie]

The leader of the GOP. Just tweeted he is going to be better for the LGBT community than Democrats.

Republicans have become the pro gay party.

[Geeman]

Lets see,

The nightclub had every door to the place locked???  Seriously???  Fire Marshals around here would be collecting fine money all over the place.  Good thing he didn't bring a gallon of gasoline cause it would have killed everyone.

That and it took three hours for police to end this.

Lessons to be learned:

--Evil people do exist, and little can be done to keep them from doing evil things.
--Police cannot keep you safe.
--Government cannot keep you safe.
--Business will risk your life for a few extra bucks in profits.
--Media take the government story line, hook, line, and sinker.  That usually isn't the real story.
--Politicians instantly push their divide and conquer techniques to turn out their base in order to keep jobs they don't deserve.

Greg