best ammo for bear protection?

[Jim Bridger]

YES YOUR CHOICE OF HARD CAST 10MM 200 GR BULLETS IS CORRECT.   THE 10MM HAS BEEN USED WITH SUCCESS IN STOPPING THE BROWN BEARS. I HAVE 3 FRIENDS WHO HAVE SUFFERED GRIZZ ATTACKS.  THE LAST TWO WERE ATTACKED LAST MONTH.  ONLY ONE WAS ARMED HE HAD A GLOCK 10MM LOADED WITH 200 GRS HARD CAST SLUGS. THIS OCCURRED IN TWO SEPARATE ATTACKS.
FOR ANYONE TO ASSUME THAT THE 10MM CANNOT TURN AN ATTACKING BEAR MAY LIVE AN URBAN LIFE.  THE MULTI SHOT 10MM CAN PENETRATE DEEPLY INTO THE BEARS BRAIN.  FAST EXPANDING BULLETS  ARE NOT THE ANSWER IN STOPPING A GRIZZ. 

[Wyocaddis]

a bigger gun. 45colt +P or 454 Casull. with 300 gr. bullets and up.

[czgunner]

200 grain hard cast, at least 1200 fps should be a good starting point.

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[Rvrrat14]

I have a G20 and shoot 180XTPs and now cast my own 180?s.   These are running in the 1200 - 1250 range.

I surely haven?t shot a true bear, but the Texas Bear?s (hogs) seem to die just fine with these loads.

If I were going to Alaska or something like it, where Grizzly/Brownies would surely be, for an extended time, I?d load some 200 cast bullets with a hard lead mix for penetration.

Other than that, a brief period in Grizzly county in Wy some years ago, I packed some 165?s and felt fine, as my ability and confidence was good with this combination.  Glock 20 = 15+1 and an extra 15 mag.

Enjoy your trip and keep your eyes open!

[Wyocaddis]

Would want good cast bullets for big bear medince

[blaster]

how about FMJ bullets? would they have any advantage or disadvantage over hard cast? seems to me they would be just as good and maybe function better in some pistols.

[Graybeard]

how about FMJ bullets? would they have any advantage or disadvantage over hard cast? seems to me they would be just as good and maybe function better in some pistols.

I've always suspected that some of the flat nosed, wide meplat, 10mm bullets might have good results. The Armscor FMJs have brass jackets and a very wide meplat, almost the same as most hard cast bullets in width. Most other 10mm FMJs have a narrower meplat.

I've heard that round nosed FMJs can be deflected off of bone and can push tougher body parts like arteries out of the way rather than severing them. Seems plausible, especially since I have no way to test that.

I have fired some of the Armscor FMJs through some 12-14" pine stumps that were drying for a couple of years and had some big knots in them. They whistled right through with no deflection and tore up the ground on the other side. There was almost no deformation other than the rifling marks. They're very tough bullets.

RMR sells them, although they don't identify them as Armscor.

[Jim Bridger]

A 10MM round loaded with a very high Brinnel slug that goes deep into Mr.  Grizz, may save your life?

[Markwell]

     The best 200gr hard cast bullet we've found is the BHN-22, RNFP/GC from Montana Bullet works. 12.5gr. of A#9 pushes them to 1250fps from our Guncrafter No Name 1911 with the 6" barrel installed.  Recoil is stout but manageable.   

     I could not get 220gr RNFPs to feed reliably, despite changing seating depths. Anyone else have this issue with the 220s?  Have heard it's a common problem with all guns and the 220s. Just a rumor of fact?

[czgunner]

     The best 200gr hard cast bullet we've found is the BHN-22, RNFP/GC from Montana Bullet works. 12.5gr. of A#9 pushes them to 1250fps from our Guncrafter No Name 1911 with the 6" barrel installed.  Recoil is stout but manageable.   

     I could not get 220gr RNFPs to feed reliably, despite changing seating depths. Anyone else have this issue with the 220s?  Have heard it's a common problem with all guns and the 220s. Just a rumor of fact?

Awesome, that's the same bullet I'm trying to load. Any experience with power pistol or Longshot?