has armscor lowered velocity?

hikfromstik · April 20 2016 09:54:41 AM MDT

Just bought a box of Armscor USA and noticed they didn't feel (kick) like my older box of Armscor precision. Their website says 1,008 fps and 406ft/lbs . That means it's no longer worth the price for me and they take the crown as the weakest 10mm on the market . Heck , there are some 9mm more powerful .

Intercooler · April 20 2016 10:55:53 AM MDT

When BVAC loaded it for them it was respectable. Looks like those days are over!

Dave84 · April 20 2016 01:23:27 PM MDT

Really sad. In 2012 they were around 1220 ish. Really neutered and worthless now.

hikfromstik · April 20 2016 08:47:06 PM MDT

Thanks for the reply . I've been wondering where all these people are getting these 1150fps armscor. I noticed they have removed their fps- ft/lbs label off the box . Now we know why . When I go to ammo seek to check cheapest prices I now go straight to Sig elite's ,which usually are around $23 - $25 per 50 . SG ammo is having the best deals here lately.

Intercooler · April 21 2016 06:25:25 AM MDT

I sent them a note and received one reply. Waiting for the next reply after sending info to them. If somebody has the ".40-weak" stuff, I will swap to Chronograph them and do a pull-down.

Pumpkinheaver · April 21 2016 08:24:22 PM MDT

I chronographed some a couple of months ago and while I don't have my notes here in front of me I remember they clocked under 1,000 FPS for me. I think they were in the neighborhood of 950 FPS if I am remembering correctly. This was out of a stock Glock 20 gen4.

Intercooler · April 22 2016 04:24:52 AM MDT

No response from them yet. It's a shame we try to teach these companies where to load real 10mm at and they back slide.

wolfsburg_de · April 22 2016 12:09:41 PM MDT

Not sure if this is related but I found that in boxes purchased last fall, "Armscor " is FMJ while "Armscor USA" is TMJ (completely encapsulated bullet). Back to back out of my Witness 4.5" the FMJ averaged 1115 fps while the TMJ was a touch spicier at 1138 fps. Out of the same pistol, Sig 180gr clocked at 1220 fps, for comparison.

Rojo27 · April 22 2016 12:29:10 PM MDT

Quote from: Intercooler on April 22 2016 04:24:52 AM MDT
No response from them yet. It's a shame we try to teach these companies where to load real 10mm at and they back slide.

I've shot a decent number of boxes over the last couple years; However, won't be buying anymore of the watered down variety. These new mv's are straight up 40cal level. If I want to shoot 40cal, I'll take my 40cal to the range.

Wolfie · April 22 2016 04:37:13 PM MDT

I have one box left, once thats gone it will be replaced with Sigs.