A missed opportunity for easy and REAL gun violence improvement?

Started by Buckeye 50, March 16 2016 05:49:09 PM MDT

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my_old_glock

Quote from: 10-4 on March 17 2016 06:24:15 PM MDT
A solution in search of a problem.  99.999% of all guns in the USA are never used in a crime.  But how many people are killed by vehicle accidents?  A lot more than by guns.  How about a law requiring car keys be kept in a safe?  And you have to blow 0.00 before that safe will open.  And if some nut gets hold of those keys and runs over 15 kids at a school bus stop I think we have a good case against the manufacturer of that vehicle.

And you can apply that thinking to any dangerous object.

Remember: 99.999% of all guns in the USA are never used to commit any crime.


They have devices that attach to a vehicles ignition that require a person to blow in it before they start the engine. If there is any alcohol in their system, the device won't let the engine start. Someone else (spouse, child, friend, etc) could blow in the device and start the car for the drunk person. Some friends of mine are auto mechanics, and they have had to work on cars with that device. They complain because every time they start the engine, they have to blow in it. Don't be surprised if someday such a device is on every car from the factory.


I think enforcing the laws and increasing punishment will do more good than any gizmo.



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DM1906

Quote from: my_old_glock on March 19 2016 10:19:55 AM MDT
Quote from: 10-4 on March 17 2016 06:24:15 PM MDT
A solution in search of a problem.  99.999% of all guns in the USA are never used in a crime.  But how many people are killed by vehicle accidents?  A lot more than by guns.  How about a law requiring car keys be kept in a safe?  And you have to blow 0.00 before that safe will open.  And if some nut gets hold of those keys and runs over 15 kids at a school bus stop I think we have a good case against the manufacturer of that vehicle.

And you can apply that thinking to any dangerous object.

Remember: 99.999% of all guns in the USA are never used to commit any crime.


They have devices that attach to a vehicles ignition that require a person to blow in it before they start the engine. If there is any alcohol in their system, the device won't let the engine start. Someone else (spouse, child, friend, etc) could blow in the device and start the car for the drunk person. Some friends of mine are auto mechanics, and they have had to work on cars with that device. They complain because every time they start the engine, they have to blow in it. Don't be surprised if someday such a device is on every car from the factory.


I think enforcing the laws and increasing punishment will do more good than any gizmo.



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Devices and gizmos are only as effective as their conscience use. The ignition interlocks are only effective if the user consciously respects them. All that's needed is a balloon or 6' of garden hose to defeat them, at any time of choice.
Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. -- The Duke

Bruno747

This also stinks of what qualifies as secure? I have cables on all my weapons not in use, but most arent in locked cases? Do I have to have a safe, does it have to be UL rated, do i have to own a second safe to store ammunition separatly. Will I need a third to store a critical item which will keep the weapon from firing like the bolt or slide?

As I have said before....slipperly slope. Before you know it this law is passed and you have to have $10k worth of securing solutions to own a firearm.