Dillon 1050 or ???

[sqlbullet]

I have some cash at the moment and I need to process a bunch of 308 brass.  So Dillon 1050 or something else and keep $1000 in my pocket.  Keep in mind I have 30,000 primer pockets to be swaged.

Anyone use a super swage 600?  I have the RCBS set up, buy it just won't cut it for this volume of brass.

Hornady has a pretty nifty swage set up for the lock and load ap.  But it is not an inline step but a separate one.

[Tim_Z]

I gave thought to a 1050. Already have a 550 but the 1 year warranty on the 1050 verses lifetime for the 650 led me to the 650. The SS 600 is great but manual.  Not too bad though. I enjoy using it.  For the 550 and 650 uniquetech has a swagger that replaces the priming system on the press to speed up the process. Though it is not an in line operation as the press will have to be restored to normal operation to reload. 

Anyway, the 650 rocks!

Tim

[sqlbullet]

So, Tim_z let me phrase my question a little differently.

If you had the option of sitting for 60 hours using the SS600, or making $1000 less money in brass sales, which would you choose? I figure I can sell the Super 1050 for about 75% of what I bought it for, so really it is $250 less money in brass sales, plus the hassle of selling it.

I do seem to notice that there aren't ANY for sale, which makes me think they sell pretty quick used.

Thanks for the heads up on the swageit system.  That looks like a possible solution to my quandary.  I have emailed them about how well it stands up to large volume.

[Tim_Z]

My perspective is one of hobby, non professional. Swaging is a necessary evil means to an end.  It is not something I enjoy but it is rewarding. So, is it worth $16 per hour to swage primer pockets..... I don't think that large. But I see your perspective. 1050 would be looking better to me in that instance.

[Taterhead]

I haven't used one, but you're right that you'd lose very little by flipping an 1050. For that volume, I'd also setup a lube die, a Dillon 1500 trimmer, and an M expander.  One pass through and cases are de-capped, pockets swaged, sized, and trimmed to uniform length. Guys I know that use the Dillon 1200/1500 trimmers don't find the need to debur since it cuts very cleanly.

[Tim_Z]

I haven't used one, but you're right that you'd lose very little by flipping an 1050. For that volume, I'd also setup a lube die, a Dillon 1500 trimmer, and an M expander.  One pass through and cases are de-capped, pockets swaged, sized, and trimmed to uniform length. Guys I know that use the Dillon 1200/1500 trimmers don't find the need to debur since it cuts very cleanly.

I wonder how they are trimming theirs to not get a bur. My 1500 sometimes leaves a slight bur. Maybe I am moving the handle back upward too quickly not giving the cutter a chance to make enough of a pass. Anyone have any pointers for me?

Thanks,
Tim.

[Osageid]

So, Tim_z let me phrase my question a little differently.

If you had the option of sitting for 60 hours using the SS600, or making $1000 less money in brass sales, which would you choose? I figure I can sell the Super 1050 for about 75% of what I bought it for, so really it is $250 less money in brass sales, plus the hassle of selling it.

I do seem to notice that there aren't ANY for sale, which makes me think they sell pretty quick used.

Thanks for the heads up on the swageit system.  That looks like a possible solution to my quandary.  I have emailed them about how well it stands up to large volume.

I have the SS600- yea kinda slow for that volume.  As for your 75 percent retention of price, well I imagine you could get much closer to what you paid!! Reason not many on market used is that people don't sell them.  Don't worry about warranty reason why it comes with only one year warranty is that it is used as a commercial loader.  People as you know replace handle with a motor.  Dillon will often times still stand behind it.  I predict of you actually got it you would not want to get rid of it. I have two 650s and one 550. 

[sqlbullet]

Thanks for the feedback.  A 1050 is inbound set up for 308 carbide dies and a auto trimmer.  Should have it in about a week.

[Osageid]

Thanks for the feedback.  A 1050 is inbound set up for 308 carbide dies and a auto trimmer.  Should have it in about a week.

I looked to any thread on 1050? You get it yet?

[sqlbullet]

Got it.

For my purpose, processing a crap-ton of 308 brass, it is the bomb.  Just FYI, Lyman Quick Slick sucks as a lube for carbide Dillon dies, but the RCBS spray lube and Hornady spray lube work great.  When I run out of RCBS I am gonna mix up my own lanolin lube and give it a whirl.

I have sat at the press about 3 hours so far and in that time have processed about 3500 pieces.  I also picked up a Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler on Amazon at a good price and have very, very pretty brass now.

Once I finish off the rest of the 30K pieces of brass I have to go, I will probably see what is involved in setting it up for a different caliber (358 winchester probably first).  I bought some Hornady lock rings that I am gonna use in lieu of the uber expensive Dillon tool heads.  And I need to order a shell plate and feeder parts for 10mm and 223, as well as the feeder thing for 30-06.  At that point I will be set up to load for all my self-stuffers.

[Osageid]

I take it you are liking it!

[sqlbullet]

Very, very much!

[Osageid]

They are well worth the money