First 10mm - Which one

Started by BrowningGuy88, February 05 2016 07:57:07 AM MST

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sqlbullet

Check your extractor tension.  I would guess the brass is slipping the extractor hook before the ejector beans it.

will965

i had a whole thread about my rock island woes...my tac 1911 was a pos...hope i was the only one, back to the factory twice, still wouldnt feed hot stuff or armscorp easy stuff reliability..sold it to a 1911 buddy of mine who took it as a project gun. sorry, mine was horrible, i tried different springs, mags, ammo, 2 trips to factory(they are great about that by the way, very nice to deal with) it looked super sharp with the vz grips but i cant have an unreliable gun like that. :(..................my glock 40 on the other hand, whole other story ;D

sqlbullet

Glocks redefined reliable.  Everyone else has had to try to catch up.

Reverendpdp

The good and the bad about those Rock Islands is that Armscor WILL take care of you.  It is unfortunate that so many have to be returned.  The QC in the Philippines is atrocious.  But maybe it's that way by design?  Perhaps the company is happy with the amount of guns returned, and they're able to maintain decent profit margins in spite of all the warranty work they must do?  When you think about, most people buy a gun, then simply do not use it.  If Armscor is banking on this, then it might be a sound business strategy for them.  You and I look at it as lost revenue whenever they have to do so much warranty work, but it's probably not that way at all...

Most of the RIA's I've seen return from the mother ship are completely fixed and problem free.  Mine included.  That being the case, if you're willing to buy a gun with the understanding that in all likelihood you're going to need to send it in for repair, then the Rock Islands might be another gun to consider.   

Reverendpdp

Quote from: sqlbullet on February 09 2016 01:53:21 PM MST
Glocks redefined reliable.  Everyone else has had to try to catch up.

Yep... and they also redefined ugly!  :o 
... sorry couldn't resist the temptation.   8)

sqlbullet

They have grown on me.  Not the elegant lines of a 1911 or S&W Model 19.

But a very utilitarian beauty.

Intercooler

   Did the 4th Gen G20's do an about face? I know when they first were released we saw a bunch of malfunction issue thread here. Hey... four generations of looking like the same thing it always was  ;D

sqlbullet

I have not heard as much noise lately.

Geeman

Quote from: Intercooler on February 09 2016 02:15:07 PM MST
   Did the 4th Gen G20's do an about face? I know when they first were released we saw a bunch of malfunction issue thread here. Hey... four generations of looking like the same thing it always was  ;D

I had issues early on with a Gen4, but when put in stock configuration it was all good..... Except for UW 220g Hardcast.  It doesn't like those at all.

The Tanfoglio Limited Pro has always hit 100% except for one bad magazine which would cause an issue every once it a while, always with the 4th shot left in the gun.  Marked the magazine and its been 100% ever since.  It eats those 220g Hardcast like candy.  Just have to stay out of the lube cloud, or learn to hold your breath... :P  It handles hotter ammo than the Glock too without smiled up brass.

Greg

Ramjet

Quote from: sqlbullet on February 09 2016 01:53:21 PM MST
Glocks redefined reliable.  Everyone else has had to try to catch up.

Agreed I have run everything from 105 grain DRT to 220 grain Cast from a Mihec. ran 100%.

I have Reeder tuned and reworked RI 1911 Commander it has been flawless.  I have read allot about some thier loving care needed on those guns and for the price point a few bucks of after market parts and tender loving care should be good.

sqlbullet

Same experience with my Tanfoglio's.  They will handle "hot" loads much better than my Glock or Para.  I suspect a new barrel in the para would fix most of it's complaints.  It appears the previous owner did an aggressive throat job.

What I meant by my statement about Glocks.  I remember when they came out in 1982.  Back then revolvers ruled for duty guns, and a 1911 from the factory probably would feed 230 grain ball.  If you wanted a semi-auto that would feed hollow points reliably, your options were one of the full-size (and weight) "wonder nines", or spend a gob of money having your gun tuned.

Suddenly here was this gun that was relatively inexpensive, lightweight, high capacity and it ate everything.  People talk about Glock as the father of the polymer revolution.  I tend to think the  HK VP70 may have been the father, but the Glock was the the mother that helped it grow up and find it's place.  Or maybe the cool cousin that everyone loved.

Here was a gun that had both a long, but not oppressive,  trigger pull, and yet a clear, defined, consistent break.  It wasn't an SA trigger, it wasn't really a DA trigger either.  Certainly not like a Beretta or S&W DA/SA auto.

It left gun writers wanting for a way to describe.  So many article included phrases like "you have to experience it to understand".

I don't think the Glock is perfection.  The grip is a challenge for many shooters for one.  And, there have been many ND's from fingers and shirt-tails getting hooked on a trigger during a re-holster.

But Glock certainly did re-define the rules, and in a very positive way.

ZanderMan

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Quote from: sqlbullet on February 09 2016 12:11:18 PM MST
Check your extractor tension.  I would guess the brass is slipping the extractor hook before the ejector beans it.
Will do... Here are 44 of 60 cases fired that I was able to recover. Only about 4-5 of them have a minor dent at the case opening, I'm guessing from pinging the slide. Oddly, I was not able to find the dented casing after it rolled off the table at the range!


Over half had a smear to the striker dent in the primer...
RIA 1911 Tact II FS 10mm

sqlbullet

You should see the wipes I get with my Tanfoglios.  On lower impulse guns this is blamed on unlock before the pin retracts.  I think on our 10mm's it is the FP being thrown back into the primer when the slide heads to the rears.

ZanderMan

So more of a second dent than a smear...
RIA 1911 Tact II FS 10mm

sqlbullet

No, it is definitely a smear, just long.