Pro second? Better get behind Trump

[sqlbullet]

He said "We will not harm the 2nd, we need to EXPAND IT"

How do you expand on "...shall not be infringed"? 

I think we should just enforce it.

I think our gun laws should be centered around penalties that get applied when my bullets start going into other people or their stuff.  Not around who can buy what and take it where, when.

... because folks like me won't vote for him, staying home again.

I haven't gone to the polls to vote for someone for decades.  When I was young, stupid and idealistic I did, and now realize those votes were cast for swine.

I go to the polls to vote against people.  I didn't vote for Mitt Romney or John McCain, I voted against Barack Obama.   I didn't vote for George W Bush, I voted against Al Gore and John Kerry.

If you want to participate in making the candidates better, get involved locally in who gets started in politics.  But at the national level, it is about voting against the greater of evils, not for someone who is good.

[Mike_Fontenot]

He said "We will not harm the 2nd, we need to EXPAND IT"

How do you expand on "...shall not be infringed"? 

I think we should just enforce it.

Trouble is, different people interprete "shall not be infringed" differently.  Obama would probably tell you that nothing he has proposed "infringes" ... how could "common sense" legislation possibly "infringe"?

[sqlbullet]

I hear you.

This is why I like to have a dialog with gun control folks about the first amendment.  They are always rabid supporters which I agree with completely.  I then talk about proposed regulations on the tools of speech, such as restrictions on internet access.  Again, they see this as a huge problem.  Restricting access to the tools of speech is a restriction on speech.

Then I ask if they think we have a right to life.  Of course.  Right to defend said life?  Yes, of course.  Then by extension any action which restricts my right to tools to defend life restricts my right to life.

Most bluster at this point, but some become thoughtful.

\in-?frinj\

to encroach upon in a way that violates ... the rights of another

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infringe

[Wolfie]

Sorry Captain, the GOP in 2000 ran AGAINST nation building and what happened?

Now on to Shall Not be Infringed, are you guys kidding? Where in the Constitution does it say a felony, domestic violence or dishonorable discharge disqualifies you from carrying?

It does not.

Ever read any old west stories? You had to check your gun into the Sheriffs office in certain towns. You guys act as if Obama is taking your guns away, this started way before him.

Psst, Rubio bought a gun around Christmas, that means he is now the real deal.

[Geeman]

Each and every one gets to choose. 

My number one hasn't changed.  I'm still with Carson, based on his views of the founding fathers, constitution, and natural law.

My second choice would be Carly, because she recognizes how the big business - big bank - big government forces have destroyed the level playing field for the little guy starting out. 

The stunts the Cruz campaign pulled in Iowa have soured me on him in a big way.  I had previously had a measure of respect, but he now has a long way to go to earn any level of trust in my book.  Lying and cheating to get ones way and stuffing a bible in my face are way to inconsistent in my book.

Maybe I'll just write the name of my dog on the ballot.

Greg

[Pablo]

Psst, Rubio bought a gun around Christmas, that means he is now the real deal.

Frankly I find that stupidly snarky. Do you have anything about Rubio and the 2nd Amendment?

[Wolfie]

Of course it is a stupid remark.

How dare I question anyone.

I recall Romney who was pro gay pro abortion and anti gun while governor. And when he ran for president he saw "Jesus" and changed his stances.

I have news for all of you, MOST Republicans could care less about guns all they care about is your vote.

[Pablo]

Of course it is a stupid remark.

How dare I question anyone.

I recall Romney who was pro gay pro abortion and anti gun while governor. And when he ran for president he saw "Jesus" and changed his stances.

I have news for all of you, MOST Republicans could care less about guns all they care about is your vote.

Do you have anything about Rubio and the 2nd Amendment?

[my_old_glock]

My second choice would be Carly, because she recognizes how the big business - big bank - big government forces have destroyed the level playing field for the little guy starting out. 

Carly should be able to recognize how big businesses destroyed the field for the little guy. She destroyed many people's lives at Hewlett Packard. She was so bad, they fired her.


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[Captain_Witness]

OK. guys, you are all mavericks who should enjoy a sea hag or crazy bernie presidency. Glad I am retreating into a rural survival situation..

[sqlbullet]

Bernie or Trump would be my choice.  Both are outsiders enough that they won't get much done, which is ideal since I don't want them doing much.

[Wolfie]

This is why I say cut a deal with Obama for National Reciprocity and or whatever else for Background Checks.

No way we get it with Hillary.

For those betting on the GOP to protect the 2nd, how did the GOP do stopping Gay Marriage and Obamacare?

Democrats think long term with Demographics on their side, if Romney had Reagan's demographics he would have won.

Republicans think short term, they sucker you for your vote and then sell you out. Look at the last budget, liberals got everything in exchange for oil exports for the rich.

I used to listen to Howard Stern back in the day as a young patrolman. He called this KKK guy down south whose message was "wake up white people,"  he was 100% correct. The GOP plays white people like a fiddle and they do nothing for us.

Go ahead and shut me down and give me ONE example were the GOP has done anything for us since Ike.

[Mike_Fontenot]

Go ahead [...] and give me ONE example were the GOP has done anything for us since Ike.

Scalia.

[Mike_Fontenot]

Bernie [...] would be my choice. 

Man, that comment, coming from someone who supposedly values his gun rights, depresses me more about the future of our gun rights than anything I've heard for a long time.  We're doomed.

[The_Shadow]

One thing that is very clear is the thick fabric is woven such the the corruption covers all parties and both side of the isles as well.

It is spread like butter over all branches of our big, out of control, overbearing greedy government gone wild for power and control...it has be sugar coated throughout with Obummer's Islamic Brotherhood, as he is paving the way for the implementation of Sharia Law.  If it is enacted and / or once in place, we will only have one recourse and that will be a all out civil war to regain what we will lose or have already lost.  The steps of dumbing down the people, pushing the change into the educational curriculum has been implemented and the damage is becoming apparent.

What I see, and I know others have to also see this coming, is that they will use the rule of law (Sharia Law) to put an end to America and our way of life...

Therefore the time is now to elect someone that will put a stop to this movement and reverse the tide of change that has flowed for the last 7 1/2 years...

To make America Great Again, it will take a lot of clearing out of the Senate and Representatives, who are immersed in the corruption of big corporate back room deals...

Trump's a shrewd businessman and it will not be easy because this is a runaway government, with hidden ties to protect their turf (banking, stock market, contracts, etc)...it has gone way beyond "We The People"