Obama Executive Orders on guns

[sqlbullet]

Politics is a game of compromise.  Our rights are already infringed, and our ideals lay hemorrhaging in the road.

Shrewdly negotiating something they want (national background checks) for in exchange for things we want (no national registry growing as a result of said BG checks, national reciprocity, supressors and SBR's off the NFA and new stamps for full auto) makes sense for gun owners.  Yes, we give up a 1 piece of the pie.  But we get 5 back.

If I lost $100 and was offered $80 back for a $20 reward, I would do it.  Yes, the right thing would be for the finder to just return my stuff.  But I would rather be out $20 than $100.

[Rich10]

Your dream deal with the NFA abolished won't happen.... not with Obama or any dem.

[sqlbullet]

You miss my point.

If we just say "No" we are the evil bad guys who won't protect the children.

If, on the other hand, we say yes, and while we are at it lets fix some other things that are a huge waste of LE time and tax payer money, and they say "No", then they are the evil bad guys who won't protect the children.

[Rich10]

No, I did not miss your point.

[DenStinett]

If B'HO would take a minute out of his busy Golf Day, he might realize that the Cities with the toughest Gun Laws, have the worst Gun Crime
New York, Detroit, DC, Baltimore and (his own beloved) Chicago top this list
If the Gun related deaths, from these few Cities were subtracted from the Nations Stats, than the US would be in the bottom 5% of the entire Worlds Gun Related Deaths
You gotta love "Selective Blindness" ! ! !

[Wolfie]

1. Bush played more golf than Obama.

2. Gun deaths in NYC are due to guns being bought down south and moved up north via proxies with no background checks. Most NYPD gun deaths are this route.

You guys don't get it. Hillary is way worse for us on guns. Obama is a pragmatist and will work to get something done. Once Hillary gets in, she needs just one more Democrat judge and its all over for us.

Mark it down, progressives never lose. Conservatives talk a good game to get elected, but once in its all for the rich. The time is ticking, lets not be left holding a empty pizza box.

[10-4]

.... (national background checks) for in exchange for things we want (no national registry growing as a result of said BG checks)...

Once that "national background check" has been initiated those digital records are forever no matter what the legislation states.  Say NO to Registration (Universal Background Checks).  Hold tight - the public is wising up.  Generation X wants to know more about guns and shooting and self defense.  The majority of the public is against more gun laws.   

[spaniel]

1. Bush played more golf than Obama.

2. Gun deaths in NYC are due to guns being bought down south and moved up north via proxies with no background checks. Most NYPD gun deaths are this route.

You guys don't get it. Hillary is way worse for us on guns. Obama is a pragmatist and will work to get something done. Once Hillary gets in, she needs just one more Democrat judge and its all over for us.

Mark it down, progressives never lose. Conservatives talk a good game to get elected, but once in its all for the rich. The time is ticking, lets not be left holding a empty pizza box.

Spot on...most gun homicides are committed by people that are breaking the law, and passing new laws will not stop them and only impact the law-abiding.  The hard drugs which are the root of most large city gun homicides are illegal, yet they continue to be available to all who desire them....and drugs are a consumable, while an illegal gun can be used repeatedly.

Your rhetoric is really old.  Obama is from one of the most violent cities in the nation, yet continues to push policies which do nothing to address the root cause of that violence.  Chicago politicians blame Indiana guns for their crimes, but it's really the socioeconomic issues of their own city.  Shut down Indiana, criminals will find another source, they always do.  If they can import cocaine from Columbia they can get guns from anywhere.

Don't confuse motion for action.  The only thing worse than a politician who won't take action is one who takes the wrong actions simply to give the impression that they are doing something....while impacting innocent, law-abiding citizens while doing nothing to address the root problem.

[Wolfie]

Its not against the law in the south to buy a gun and then sell it to someone else without a background check. That person then sells the gun with no trail. I do not understand what the big deal is. Everyone here that buys a gun from a store does a federal NICS check. That gun is attached to you already.

As for Obama he is not even from Chicago, he is from Hawaii via Kansas and chose Chicago as Hillary was already in NY. (Shopping for a seat)

Don't confuse motion for action? You got that right, I know when people make promises and dont keep them I dont support them anymore. I learned that many years ago.

Just think all that spending talk for the last 7 years, the Tea Party and all that was wiped away for the right to sell oil overseas.

Sold out for the rich, but hey keep getting those NRA alerts.

[10-4]

Bush played golf 24 times in 8 years!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/linksman-obama-tops-bush-in-golf-rounds-244-24/article/2570184

[Wolfie]

I stand corrected on the golf, now watch me hit this ball.

[sqlbullet]

.... (national background checks) for in exchange for things we want (no national registry growing as a result of said BG checks)...

Once that "national background check" has been initiated those digital records are forever no matter what the legislation states.  Say NO to Registration (Universal Background Checks).  Hold tight - the public is wising up.  Generation X wants to know more about guns and shooting and self defense.  The majority of the public is against more gun laws.   

One way encrypt the record client side before the fed gets it.  Then the record exists and can prove the check took place without providing any information about ownership.

It doesn't have to be registration.

[Bruno747]

Can't wait until the White House is devoid of the worst most destructive, Un American POTUS ever!
BTW, none of my guns killed anyone last year or the many many years before...I hope that 2016 they are not needed either!
I have a fire extinguisher for the same reasons...

Unfortunately, it's looking like the next one may be worse. We need to get away from the two party crap and elect a real president.

[Wolfie]

She will be way more of a problem for us than Obama. The time to deal is now, push that House bill for national reciprocity now and cut a deal.

When she gets in and it is looking good for her, we will be doomed after 8 years of her and 2-3 more liberal US Supreme Court justices.

[rainsdrops]

Chicago (chi-raq) has tough gun laws compared to most cities.   Assault weapons are banned in some suburbs, 10 round magazine maximum, and yet it has extremely high gun violence numbers.
Tougher buyer /seller / traceability laws will not work.  Criminals will continue to buy and sell firearms illegally.   If you make a desired object harder to obtain, you increase it's cost.  Increasing its cost provides the seller, with a greater profit.  Increase profits, will promote more people to sell illegally.
Any form of gun contol only affect law abiding citizens.
  Let's look at our current drug war.  The US has not and cannot, irradiate illegal drugs in this country.  The greater number of drug laws, the greater the risk is on the drug dealer, who interns increases his profits, thus seducing more people into the drug industry.  The only victim is the non drug using citizen. 

Shall be infringed, means no changes, restrictions, or amendment to our right to bear arms.  Did restricting felons from owning guns, really remove firearms from their hands, or create a black market for it.
Does NFA laws truly prevent criminals from using vertical handgrips on pistols, taping a coke bottle to a barrel, or adjusting sears in semi rifles? No!!!!!

Gun laws of any kind, any nature, only affect law abiding citizens.  It's their intention to disarm you.