Obama Executive Orders on guns

Started by Wolfie, December 31 2015 01:41:45 PM MST

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Wolfie

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/264503-report-obama-gun-actions-expected-next-week

Citing gun-industry insiders and other sources, Politico reported one proposal would classify more gun sellers as high-volume dealers. Proponents say that would close a legal loophole, which allows many sales conducted online or at gun shows to skirt existing background check provisions.

Another would make stricter rules for reporting guns that are lost or stolen.


sqlbullet

More FUD to fuel a fire.

A "high volume dealer" as they put it is someone who sells lots of guns online.  And then they conclude that if the person doesn't have an FFL, the sales occur without a background check.

I seriously want these guys to BUY a gun online and report about how well that goes.

Wolfie

I think they could make it to where the distributor could only to sell to those that have a FFL and end it totaly.

I am against this, but have no problem with reporting lost or stolen guns.

sgtbones

That's how they make it appealing with the lost and stolen guns part.

Wolfie

Concur Sgt, this is a fight the Democrats want. How can anyone be against reporting a stolen or lost gun. Democrats also win the background check fight with 90% of the public supporting it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/211321-poll-most-gun-owners-support-universal-background-checks

If Hillary wins and stacks the courts. The courts will switch course and begin to hold the firearm makers liable for injuries and deaths. This is the plan, not touch the 2nd but make firearms expensive.

Kinda like how NYC used gentrification to push all the poor out and bring in nothing but the rich. There was a fill in host for Rush the other day. And he said that the Democrats recognized that they would lose the House when they passed Obamacare. He contrasted how the Republicans folded with the budget and noted that the liberals always get what they want as they fight for the future.

Rich10

If we want to fight for the future, we can't give ground on the 2nd A.  Allowing yourself to be convinced otherwise is a losing compromise.

Rojo27

Last 10 months in office, everything is calculated.  Constitution means nothing. 
IMO whatever new rules crafted out of thin air via fiat will be quickly challenged and initially stayed in court to be battled over later.  Not much time remaining, POLITICAL liability for overreach and smack down by courts greatly reduced.  Any power clearly within his authority would have been excercised well before now.   

This don't have a damn thing to do with background checks (anymore than Benghazi had to do with a YouTube video)....  Name the last notable shooting perpetrated by individual who purchased firearm without a background check being run.... 

Wolfie

Battle over reporting lost or stolen guns?

Oh boy Democrats will love to see that happen.

Rich10

The battle has to be made clear and concise.

Wolfie

Whats the battle? Fighting to not report a loss or stolen gun? Obama would not be doing this if he thought it would hurt Hillary.

Rich10

We don't know exactly what it is yet. 


But, you have to make clear what you're battling.  Is it reporting list/stolen guns or expanded bgc's?



Wolfie

I have no problem with reporting lost or stolen guns. I believe we should negotiate background checks for national reciprocity.

sqlbullet

And suppressors and SBR's off the NFA.  And new tax stamps for full-auto.

Rich10

Quote from: Wolfie on January 01 2016 11:46:56 AM MST
I believe we should negotiate background checks for national reciprocity.

I disagree.  I wouldn't infringe a right on purpose.
National reciprocity shouldn't be a federal thing anyway.

The_Shadow

Can't wait until the White House is devoid of the worst most destructive, Un American POTUS ever!
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