Virginia eliminates reciprocity

Started by Wolfie, December 22 2015 12:36:52 PM MST

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Wolfie

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/herring-virginia-concealed-carry-reciprocity

Virginia soon will stop recognizing concealed carry permits from the 25 states it had a reciprocity agreement with, Attorney General Mark Herring announced Tuesday.

Herring, a Democrat, said doing away with the agreement could prevent those who are dangerous from carrying a concealed gun, according to The Washington Post. The new policy would prevent Virginia residents who have a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment from obtaining a permit in states with looser laws.

Herring added that the commonwealth's standards for obtaining a handgun will be applied "evenly, consistently, and fairly," as quoted by the Post. The announcement comes after several mass shootings put gun control back in the headlines nationwide. But some conservatives argued the attorney general's announcement was an assault against the Second Amendment.

"He is damaging the integrity of the office he holds," Virginia House Speaker William J. Howell (R) told the newspaper.

The new restrictions will go into place Feb. 1.

Here are the states with which Virginia is breaking its agreement:

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

The_Shadow

Add yet anther state I will not be visiting for circumventing law abiding peoples rights... :-[
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Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: Wolfie on December 22 2015 12:36:52 PM MST
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Virginia soon will stop recognizing concealed carry permits from the 25 states it had a reciprocity agreement with, Attorney General Mark Herring announced Tuesday.
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So, does the attorney general make the laws in Virginia?

Wolfie

Attorney Generals do not make law, they interpret and enforce it. This is how he justifies what he did.

"The new policy would prevent Virginia residents who have a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment from obtaining a permit in states with LOOSER laws."

Now instead of going through all the states laws, he gave a blanket statement and shut it down. Now its up to the legislature to move and its going to be tough when the other states do not have the same standards as Virginia. After all how many state legislators are going to justify giving those with a history of stalking, drug dealing or mental problems guns?

Next up will be states taking away Virginia's reciprocity, PA had something like this 10 years ago, don't recall the details.

cwlongshot

Well, I picked up MAINE. (We all did) and looks like loosing Virginia.. too bad for me, I am there quite a bit. I acquired a Utah permit as it is honored in many other states...

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Ramjet

This will be sorted out in the courts and the liberal dictator AG will be overturned.

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Ramjet

It is imperative that at the local level you vote pro gun........more important than ever.

Blades

Quote from: Ramjet on December 22 2015 08:26:38 PM MST
It is imperative that at the local level you vote pro gun........more important than ever.

Yep. If they trust me with a gun, I trust them. Liberal, democrat, republican, whatever, are they "pro-gun" 100% of the time and have been for awhile? I'll vote for them.
--Jason--

Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: Blades on December 23 2015 09:07:20 AM MST
Liberal, democrat, republican, whatever, are they "pro-gun" 100% of the time and have been for awhile? I'll vote for them.

I don't think it's that simple.  If you vote for a Democrat who is personally pro-gun, the fact that he is a Democrat will help install an anti-gun Democrat like Harry Reid in the leadership positions of the senate or house.

erikk

Which is why I keep renewing my HR 218   Screw VA
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Geeman

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on December 23 2015 11:56:14 AM MST
If you vote for a Democrat who is personally pro-gun, the fact that he is a Democrat will help install an anti-gun Democrat like Harry Reid in the leadership positions of the senate or house.

I have some news for you.  If it wasn't for Harry blocking anti-gun legislation when the Dems controlled the Senate, it could have been worse.  I'm not a fan of Reid, but gun wise, he isn't horrible.

Greg

Reverendpdp

I heard that Virginia's action was in response to Liberty University's president encouraging its student body to carry.   

Ramjet

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on December 23 2015 11:56:14 AM MST
Quote from: Blades on December 23 2015 09:07:20 AM MST
Liberal, democrat, republican, whatever, are they "pro-gun" 100% of the time and have been for awhile? I'll vote for them.

I don't think it's that simple.  If you vote for a Democrat who is personally pro-gun, the fact that he is a Democrat will help install an anti-gun Democrat like Harry Reid in the leadership positions of the senate or house.

Agreed I do not vote for Dems they cannot be trusted.

Pumpkinheaver

Missouri lost Virginia a few years ago. I'll never cast a shadow there again.