Video Review of Sig P220 10mm

cgreth · December 10 2015 05:27:53 PM MST

Hickock45 just did a review of the Sig P220 10mm.

Here is the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8znYP12MLs

Patriot · December 10 2015 08:11:50 PM MST

"Now there's one disadvantage, low capacity."

That about sums up why I won't be buying one.

sqlbullet · December 11 2015 07:06:11 AM MST

Biggest drawback to me of the Sig 10mm. Would love to see a Sig 227 in 10mm. I guess I should get a 220 so they see enough interest to make the right gun.

Intercooler · December 11 2015 04:50:09 PM MST

Pretty good review. He points out capacity though and I can't understand why Sig didn't opt for more.

Wolfie · December 11 2015 05:47:24 PM MST

Don't mind the capacity issue. Great gun.

Intercooler · December 11 2015 06:00:41 PM MST

It's a great gun... I wouldn't buy one until they offer an equal to my others... high capacity ${$default_cool_smiley}$

pacapcop · December 11 2015 08:00:03 PM MST

Like the fact Sig responded to the 10mm outcry. Think they will make capacity better. Hopefully poly version.

Sneed · December 12 2015 09:19:18 AM MST

If you think you will need more than 9 rounds of 10mm seems to me you ought to be carrying an AR. I mean how many times does anyone using a high cap actually fire more than that (excluding NYC cops with 15 pound triggers)? I also exclude mad spraying of all ammo in the pistol in panic mode from the "need" category. I seem to recall revolvers being perfectly functional in a law enforcement capacity for many years and how many rounds did they hold? I've absolutely no argument with those wanting high capacity but doubt the actual as opposed to the perceived need. And FYI, it seems Sig 10 round 45ACP mags for the 220 will work in the 10 increasing capacity to 12 rounds if I remember correctly. To each his or her own though.

Sean Thornton · December 12 2015 09:53:47 AM MST

Quote from: Sneed on December 12 2015 09:19:18 AM MST
If you think you will need more than 9 rounds of 10mm seems to me you ought to be carrying an AR. I mean how many times does anyone using a high cap actually fire more than that (excluding NYC cops with 15 pound triggers)? I also exclude mad spraying of all ammo in the pistol in panic mode from the "need" category. I seem to recall revolvers being perfectly functional in a law enforcement capacity for many years and how many rounds did they hold? I've absolutely no argument with those wanting high capacity but doubt the actual as opposed to the perceived need. And FYI, it seems Sig 10 round 45ACP mags for the 220 will work in the 10 increasing capacity to 12 rounds if I remember correctly. To each his or her own though.

Nine rds of 10mm is fine for me and I do use the 10 rd 45 mags at the range and the work flawlessly plus actually hold 11 of the 10mm for a 12 shooter. I also have a G 20. I really like my Sig 10mm DA/SA.

pacapcop · December 12 2015 10:30:16 AM MST

Depends about more rounds. Where I live, it's paramount more than 9 rounds. But I carry a Glock.

sqlbullet · December 12 2015 11:06:39 AM MST

Sneed, I agree about the probability of needing more than 10 rounds being slight. For that matter, needing more than 2-3 is slight. A small 5-shot 357 mag has more capacity than is needed in 99% of the defensive shootings that occur, and is more reliable than a semi-auto as well. Even a Glock.

On the other hand, what if you end up in a defensive shooting that is in the 0.1%, and you settled for 9 rounds?

An Ar-15 is impractical to carry on a day by day basis. If I thought I was going to be in a firefight, I would have one. My goal is to be as prepared as is reasonable should that unlikely eventuality arise. And that means if I can select to have a gun with two spare mags, they will add up to about 45-50 rounds, not 28 rounds, all else equal.

I don't think I will need any of them. The crime rate is very low where I live. But if I do, I won't die because I ran out of ammo early in the fight.

--Edit Your username? Patrick F McManus fan?

BEEMER! · December 12 2015 05:17:16 PM MST

I enjoyed the video as I always do with Hickok.

One thing I noticed was that I have never seen Hickok miss with that many shots before. He mentioned that he had shot it quite a bit the day before the filming.

Is it that he was not used to the pistol, or the pistol, or just my imagination?

PCFlorida · December 12 2015 08:07:48 PM MST

He was also saying something about a sore hand and that was why he was using the LULA? Don't know which hand...

ppro · December 12 2015 08:56:00 PM MST

I have one of the new Sigs in 10mm and fit to the hand and trigger are precisely why I went with it. I had three different Glocks in 10mm and I am not missing them.
If I can't get it done in 9 rounds it isn't going to get done. Much easier to get superior accuracy over my Glocks... I don't mind Glocks but I do like this much better.
I don't view this new Sig as a primary defense hand gun though it would certainly work. As to bear defense, seems like nothing is working in South East Idaho (Island Park and Teton area)
Lots of Grizzly attacks in the last couple years...all but one were ambush attacks and the one is unknown (hiker eaten, no way to know). By accounts, none of them had time to do anything.
Bow hunter said he had a hand gun but no time to get to it. He got chewed up sum but got the bear to stop by sticking his arm down it's throat (was in last issue of American Hunter).
Round count can matter but probably more in a extended gun battle than anything.

ppro · December 12 2015 11:31:39 PM MST

As far as my view on the round count difference between the Sig and the Glock...where it applies (and I believe this is where it may), it makes no difference.
I saw this on a forum recently and saved it because in applications such as this, I think the difference is mute:

"Start with the pepper spray, this is what the State of Alaska recommends because your odds of surviving are greater than starting with a pistol.
IF, the spray is ineffective in stopping a charging bear you will most likely be in contact distance so fast you will not get many if any shots off. However, if you have icewater for blood and exceptional pistol shooting skills you may be able to fire before the pain begins. If this is you then you are not asking too much from the 10mm with heavy HC loads because they will penetrate the skull and you are familiar with the Glock. If this is not you then a .40+ caliber revolver loaded with heavy HC that will not malfunction when pressed between you and the bear is a much better choice. Expect to die and be happy when you are only maimed. Good Luck".