460 Rowland

[EdMc]

Anyone doing anything with this cartridge? Seems very interesting and conversions are available for Glock and some 1911 platforms?

[Yondering]

I'd like to know more too. I've been hearing about it for years, but there doesn't seem to be much firsthand feedback out there. I kind of wish I'd gotten the 460 Mechtech instead of my 45, back when those came out.

[hAkron]

Here's what I know on the subject:

Clark customs sells the conversion, and will even fit it to your 1911 if it doesn't "drop-in" for free.  http://460rowland.com/ sells the conversion for 1911, Glocks, and XD's.  I was looking into this a few months ago and whoever handles the email correspondence told me that this company is directly affiliated with Johnny Rowland.  You can order the conversion directly from 460rowland.com and pay with a credit card.  I was quoted 2 weeks from order to fulfillment.  If you get it from Clark custom you have to call them on the phone to order.  That being said, my initial impression was that if you we're going to do this conversion on a 1911 platform, Clark Customs would be the better place to source the kit.

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/rowland.htm#gunlist

MidwayUSA.com sells the Star Line Brass, or you can get it direct from Star Line.

According to the Internet, a HOT loaded 460 Rowland is more or less on par with a lower power .44 magnum.

[EdMc]

I'd been looking at the 460 Roland site at the kit for a G21. I'll leave my Ser 70 Colt Gov'mt model as it is.

Not sure if I want one or not......but, this is how it usually starts.

[REDLINE]

Anyone doing anything with this cartridge?

Well, it pains me to say it, but it would be a better bear-country cartridge than 10mm.

[BEEMER!]

I am not interested and have no connection to the seller, but the price seems reasonable:


      http://www.gunsamerica.com/975287544/_45_ACP_Colt_Combat_Elite_XSE_460_Rowland_Conversion_By_Clark_Custom_Guns.htm

[sqlbullet]

Anyone doing anything with this cartridge?

Well, it pains me to say it, but it would be a better bear-country cartridge than 10mm.

I am not so sure about that.

A 230 grain .451 bullet doesn't have near the sectional density of a 200 gr .400 bullet, let alone something like Underwoods 220 grain HC.

IMHO, bear defense is about penetration (and, of course shot placement).  You have to move to a 260 grain bullet in the Rowland to get comparable SD to a 200 grain 10mm (.182 v .178).  And at 260 grains, the Rowland is down around 1200 fps, which Underwood acheives with a 220 grain bullet (SD = 196).

Basically and any given velocity, the 10mm achieves a higher SD than the Rowland can, giving the 10mm a penetration advantage.

[pop_a_cap]

I think it makes a great feral hog cartridge.. it's what I do with mine:
http://75.143.104.64/pigs/firepig.png

[my_old_glock]

I think it makes a great feral hog cartridge.. it's what I do with mine:
http://75.143.104.64/pigs/firepig.png

Feral hogs in a cage?

They don't look that big.


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