Underwood 220gr Hard Cast Flat Nose

Started by MrRedbull616, September 18 2012 09:01:58 PM MDT

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sqlbullet

220 grain making 1200 fps.  That is a pretty stout load.

Wish they had a picture so we had a better idea of the metplat size.

Yondering

Yes, a stout load for sure, but can be done; bullet length is critical in a load like this. I want to see a picture of it.

Ramjet

I wonder when I see velocities that may be on the high side is the tester quoting velocities from a pressure barrel that is longer than what we normally use on our guns thus same velocity is not realistic?

harrygunner

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Underwood is matching Buffalo Bore's performance with the same weight bullet.

I have some older Double Tap WFNGC 10mm rounds with 200gr and 215gr bullets. 'Intercooler' shot some of my 215gr DT and got 1201 ft/s from his EAA Witness Elite Match with a 4.75" barrel.  So, I can see Underwood reaching advertised numbers.

I'm not going to buy the Underwood 220gr WFN. I recalled why I was concerned about heavier bullets - hickok45's video shows how a standard Glock barrel can't stabilize heavier bullets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m0satEkGjw&feature=related

The 220gr bullets would work with my 1911, but I carry my Glock 29 in the woods. So, I'll wait for similar ammo with 200gr bullets.



sqlbullet

Underwood also has an excellent reputation for exceeding the advertised velocities.  That alone makes them quite unique in ammunition mfg's.

Yondering

Quote from: Ramjet on September 19 2012 05:38:55 PM MDT
I wonder when I see velocities that may be on the high side is the tester quoting velocities from a pressure barrel that is longer than what we normally use on our guns thus same velocity is not realistic?

Underwood has a good reputation for matching their published velocities in user's pistols. I haven't bought any of their 10mm, cause I load my own, but bought some of their 9mm 124gr +P+, advertised at 1300 fps; that stuff does 1320 fps out of my Glock 19.

Ramjet


highxj

I'll order up a box and test them in my KKM 4.6 bbl and post the results if someone doesn't beat me to it.

MrRedbull616

shot some!

UW 220gr hard cast
G29 3.8 SLB - 1133 1161 1173 1151 - avg 1155
G20 4.6LWD - 1206 1232 1217 1189 1184  - avg 1206
G20LS 6.6LWD - 1271 1266 1278 1235  avg 1263
G20 4.6barsto - 1202 1195 - avg 1199

shot some Buffalo Bore as well...

Buffalo bore 220HC -
4.6LWD - 1128 1137 1140  avg-1135
4.6barsto -  1132 1142 1148 - avg 1141


Yondering

Well done! That looks like good stuff.

Can you post a picture of the ammo? Probably too much to ask, but I'd sure like to see a picture of one of the bullets, pulled from the case.

Ramjet

Wow I like the velocity from the LWD barrel. Stem to stern load for deer.

How about accuracy from the different barrels?

REDLINE

Pictures would be great, but I think I more curious as to the powder being used.  Any chance you could disect one and see what the powder looks like, and how much of it?
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Yondering

Quote from: REDLINE on September 25 2012 12:18:32 PM MDT
Pictures would be great, but I think I more curious as to the powder being used. 

AA9 and Blue Dot will both work for this load. Maybe Longshot too, I haven't used it though. I'm safely pushing a 220gr of my own a little faster than this with AA9, but I'm sure my bullet is shorter than this one, providing more case capacity.

MrRedbull616

going to do a comparison in accuracy between   factory, storm lake, bar sto, lone wolf and kkm if I can find one.