Oregon

[Intercooler]

   Holy Facebook madness! My feed today is clogged with video, news, etc... about the Oregon shootings and a need for action. I honestly don't know the answer that would work here in America for us. I don't think we could ever be like Japan or South Korea (they are always referenced for the extremely low gun deaths) and the suggestion I keep seeing about rifles and shotguns only might not be enough to make the impact desired. It makes me wonder what the next sweeping change we will see as a result!

[The_Shadow]

BTW, the shooter was on a terrorist watch list for years according to foreign intelligence. 
Well it will only get worse as they awaken those in the sleeper cells and call them into action....
Also the acceptance of the refugees will bring in even more terrorist...

[my_old_glock]

BTW, the shooter was on a terrorist watch list for years according to foreign intelligence. 

We are all on a terrorist watch list.


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[my_old_glock]

  I honestly don't know the answer that would work here in America for us.

I know the answer, but people here (in the United States) wouldn't like it. I will say it doesn't involve taking guns away from people.


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[10mmfan]

BTW, the shooter was on a terrorist watch list for years according to foreign intelligence. 

We are all on a terrorist watch list.


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The first time I went to wikileaks I thought I am on it now.

[Intercooler]

  I honestly don't know the answer that would work here in America for us.

I know the answer, but people here (in the United States) wouldn't like it. I will say it doesn't involve taking guns away from people.


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What's the plan? I have been asking the others, but no answers.

[Pablo]

Outlaw gun free zones.

[Intercooler]

This one wasn't a gun free zone.

[Mike_Fontenot]

This one wasn't a gun free zone.

I've seen contradictory reports about that.  One I saw quoted some university statement that sounded like guns WERE prohibited.  But I saw some other news report that said one of the students was armed, but elected not to engage the shooter (might not have had direct contact with the shooter, perhaps).

[Pablo]

This one wasn't a gun free zone.

Hmmm. You sure?

[Intercooler]

   Yea. I found it earlier today in reading.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/01/3708256/ucc-was-not-a-gun-free-zone-because-public-colleges-in-oregon-cant-ban-guns/

[Pablo]

Yep. Read the entire article. Buildings gun free.

[ninja]

    Yup, just like our post offices 

[Mr. AR50]

There are way too many unknowns that need to be answered before it can be determined why/how this scumbag was able to get into the building and carry out his objective.  At first glance, CCW on campus seems to be legal with permit, but there are reports that the college had it's own policy of 'no weapons, period.' Also, I've seen news reports basically stating that if concealed carry is the answer, then why didn't at least one person known to be carrying try to stop the shooter. Again, too many variables. Did the person with the CCW even have a visual on the shooter, was he there before LEO's were? By all accounts, I've heard that LEO's were on scene almost immediately, which would mandate that anyone, CCW or not, stay out of the way and let the police do their job.
More laws aren't the answer, that will only impact law abiding citizens. Criminals don't care about laws, that's why they're called CRIMINALS!
People need to get involved. There are way too many apathetic sheeple in this country, and not enough sheep dogs. Nowadays, when something like this happens, most people either run like hell, with no regard for their fellow man, or they cower in fear, waiting for help to arrive. We're responsible for our own safety, and the sooner people understand that, the better.
Finally, in Chicago last month, a city with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, there were, I believe, 60 homicides, all committed with guns, with 50 of those deaths occurring in the last two weeks of September. Where's the outrage over these mass killings? I haven't heard a peep out of Obama, Hillary, or any other prominent liberals for that matter. Not even BLM, who are so quick to crucify a police officer for defending himself, but have remained strangely silent on Chicago. I guess it doesn't fit any of their agendas.

[Mike_Fontenot]

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Good post. A++.