What's your next caliber choice after 10mm?

Started by Buckeye 50, August 18 2015 06:00:21 PM MDT

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dan10mmman

just for instance  Winchester silver tips: 
Winchester Silver Tip 10mm AUTO  ammo for sale is a new production ammo that features 175 Grain Silvertip Hollow Point bullet. 10mm Auto by Winchester ammo is reloadable, features brass cases and Boxer primers. This ammunition is non-corrosive. Super-X jacketed hollow points have notched jackets to ensure positive expansion.

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Muzzle Velocity: 1290 feet per second
Muzzle Energy: 649 ft. lbs.


Caliber: 41 Remington Magnum
Bullet Weight: 175 Grains
Bullet Style: Silvertip Hollow Point


Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 607 ft. lbs.

DM1906

Quote from: dan10mmman on August 22 2015 11:54:55 PM MDT
just for instance  Winchester silver tips: 
Winchester Silver Tip 10mm AUTO  ammo for sale is a new production ammo that features 175 Grain Silvertip Hollow Point bullet. 10mm Auto by Winchester ammo is reloadable, features brass cases and Boxer primers. This ammunition is non-corrosive. Super-X jacketed hollow points have notched jackets to ensure positive expansion.

ORDER A CASE OF SILVER TIP 10MM AUTO BULK AMMO
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Muzzle Velocity: 1290 feet per second
Muzzle Energy: 649 ft. lbs.


Caliber: 41 Remington Magnum
Bullet Weight: 175 Grains
Bullet Style: Silvertip Hollow Point


Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 607 ft. lbs.

Never seen that before, but it isn't Winchester, I'm certain. I can believe the .41, but the 10mm is about 300 fps exaggerated. Silvertips are good bullets, but that isn't right. One example of one cartridge performance is no representation of the cartridge. I load and shoot both, and there is NO comparison. Refer to above post.
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Rojo27

Muzzle Velocity & Energy values with Winchester's 10mm and 41mag 175gr Silvertip jhp confirmed at Winchester's ballistic comparison webpage (http://www.winchester.com/Products/handgun-ammunition/Performance/Super-X-handgun/Pages/default.aspx).

However, it's in the 210gr, 240gr, 265gr, etc. commercial loadings the 41mag goes to different level.

Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: dan10mmman

Caliber: 41 Remington Magnum
Bullet Weight: 175 Grains
Bullet Style: Silvertip Hollow Point


Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 607 ft. lbs.

That's VERY wimpy for .41 magnum ... little more than half of the energy of full-spec .41 magnum.

DM1906

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on August 23 2015 11:58:49 AM MDT
Quote from: dan10mmman

Caliber: 41 Remington Magnum
Bullet Weight: 175 Grains
Bullet Style: Silvertip Hollow Point


Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 607 ft. lbs.

That's VERY wimpy for .41 magnum ... little more than half of the energy of full-spec .41 magnum.

Yeah. Mission-specific ammo is what it is. My .41M hunting round is a 180 gr. Barnes XPB at 1610 FPS. Black bear and hogs are DRT. A little more FPE than that Winchester. 30 years ago, Silvertips were stout. Now, the bullets are weak and don't hold up at magnum velocities. I quit using them years ago.
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dan10mmman

Trying to show the similarities between the 10mm and the 41Mag.  These are store bought ammo with the same bullet design and weight. 
I am looking through the library trying to find the Quote from Jeff Cooper about him wanting a 41 mag that held more shots is where the 10mm started. 
Talking home loads is a whole different world.....I have loaded 10mm 180gr @ 1600+fps, have chrono'd @ 2,000fps out of the carbine
My 41mag hunting load is a 275gr @ 1330fps.....No 10mm is going to go there.  But no 41mag will hold 15+1 shells.
Re: What's your next caliber choice after 10mm?
41mag is the closest thing I could find to the 10mm

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10mm
45 ACP
41 Magnum
45 GAP
44 Special
357 Mag
44 Mag
9mm
38spcl


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  44 Magnum, if for no other reason than it's incredible versatility, especially when hand loaded.
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Marc

9 mm

Ideally 10 mm would be my only handgun cartridge because ballistically it's perfect. But since it's not exactly cheap and plentiful (although my Dillon 650 helps A LOT), I'll back it up with the most common service pistol cartridge in the world - just in case.

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Texas 48

.40. because i can use thesae bullet for my loads. for sd at 1285 ft/sec with a 155 gr XTP 568 ft/bs energy is an adequate round from a g23 and can use a .40 conversion in my G20 and 29sf.
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dan10mmman

Quote from: Texas 48 on August 30 2015 06:33:00 PM MDT
.40. because i can use thesae bullet for my loads. for sd at 1285 ft/sec with a 155 gr XTP 568 ft/bs energy is an adequate round from a g23 and can use a .40 conversion in my G20 and 29sf.

Give that man a cigar......I almost forgot that I can shoot 40's out of my 10mm

Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: dan10mmman on September 02 2015 11:13:55 AM MDT

Give that man a cigar......I almost forgot that I can shoot 40's out of my 10mm


Requires a different barrel, I think, for semi-autos.  It's not like a revolver, that can shoot smaller-length cartridges that have the same diameter, without any changes.

DM1906

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on September 02 2015 01:40:00 PM MDT
Quote from: dan10mmman on September 02 2015 11:13:55 AM MDT

Give that man a cigar......I almost forgot that I can shoot 40's out of my 10mm


Requires a different barrel, I think, for semi-autos.  It's not like a revolver, that can shoot smaller-length cartridges that have the same diameter, without any changes.

While it isn't recommended, most semi-auto 10mm's will fire .40SW just fine without a hitch. A certain level of caution is advised, if you do. I also shoot .40SW out of my RBH 10mm cylinder, although not often (it's a PITA).
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