What's your next caliber choice after 10mm?

Started by Buckeye 50, August 18 2015 06:00:21 PM MDT

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rw

Correct answer is there is nothing after 10mm..  ;D


dan10mmman

Quote from: rw on August 20 2015 07:23:13 AM MDT
Correct answer is there is nothing after 10mm..  ;D
My choice would have come before the 10mmn what the ten was designed from.....The 41Mag

Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: dan10mmman on August 20 2015 01:15:31 PM MDT
My choice would have come before the 10mmn what the ten was designed from.....The 41Mag

10mm was never intended to mimic the .41mag.  In fact, the existing full-spec ammo for 10mm (e.g., Underwood, etc.) is quite a bit hotter than the original FBI request (which the FBI later downgraded further, and which then became today's .40S&W).  I think we have the Swiss (Norma) to thank for the present-day max-spec 10mm.

sqlbullet

Quote from: rw on August 20 2015 07:23:13 AM MDT
Correct answer is there is nothing after 10mm..  ;D

Yeah...I mean, what is this "next caliber"? :P

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Oh gosh, so many calibers to choose from. I'm partial to my .357 Mag revolver, especially whrn I can practice with it with low power .38 special DEWC loads. I think I figured out that with 8 pounds of Red Dot powder, I can reload 26000 of them loads. I usually fire 1 box of the full power magnum loads, followed by 2-3 boxes of my wadcutters.
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Dave84

Probably wont make too many friends for saying this but 9mm. If I'm not carrying a 10mm it's likely a 9mm.

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dan10mmman

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on August 20 2015 03:28:06 PM MDT
Quote from: dan10mmman on August 20 2015 01:15:31 PM MDT
My choice would have come before the 10mmn what the ten was designed from.....The 41Mag

10mm was never intended to mimic the .41mag.  In fact, the existing full-spec ammo for 10mm (e.g., Underwood, etc.) is quite a bit hotter than the original FBI request (which the FBI later downgraded further, and which then became today's .40S&W).  I think we have the Swiss (Norma) to thank for the present-day max-spec 10mm.

Please keep researching and you will find that when Col. Cooper re-invented the 10mm he was wanting a 41 mag that held more rounds.  The original load for the 10mm was a mimic of the 200gr 41 mag load @1200fps

DM1906

Quote from: dan10mmman on August 22 2015 01:03:46 PM MDT
Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on August 20 2015 03:28:06 PM MDT
Quote from: dan10mmman on August 20 2015 01:15:31 PM MDT
My choice would have come before the 10mmn what the ten was designed from.....The 41Mag

10mm was never intended to mimic the .41mag.  In fact, the existing full-spec ammo for 10mm (e.g., Underwood, etc.) is quite a bit hotter than the original FBI request (which the FBI later downgraded further, and which then became today's .40S&W).  I think we have the Swiss (Norma) to thank for the present-day max-spec 10mm.

Please keep researching and you will find that when Col. Cooper re-invented the 10mm he was wanting a 41 mag that held more rounds.  The original load for the 10mm was a mimic of the 200gr 41 mag load @1200fps

Not so. "Designed from" and "inspired by" are entirely different notions. The .357M was "designed from" the .38Spl. If anything, the 10mm Auto was "inspired by" the .45ACP (which shares infinitely more similarities). If that was Cooper's objective, he failed, miserably. That "200 gr. @1200 FPS" round was a unique cartridge load, a LRN bullet, developed for inner city PD's. Similar FPE with less collateral penetration. The .41AE is a better match for that (which, incidentally, was introduced about a year before the 10mm). The 10mm in its hottest form barely approaces even modest .41M. Full power 10mm from a 6.5" barrel falls well short of .41M from a 4" barrel, and similar barrel lengths are in completely different leagues. 45% greater case capacity, greater cross-sectional area, at similar pressure limits easily says, "you can't get there from here".
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Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: dan10mmman on August 22 2015 01:03:46 PM MDT
  The original load for the 10mm was a mimic of the 200gr 41 mag load @1200fps

200gr at 1200 ft/sec is about 639 ft-lbs.  Today's full-spec 10mm rounds are in the neighborhood of 700 ft-lbs.  Full-spec .44mag rounds are close to 1200 ft-lbs.  Full-spec .41mag is not very far below full-spec .44mag ... probably around 1100 ft-lbs or so.