Anyone use this for SD carry Ammo.

Started by Tomcat 10, June 11 2015 01:55:39 PM MDT

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10mmfan

It be broke testing it for reliability before I'd carry it.

Tomcat 10


Pinsnscrews

IF I lived in a small apartment, I might consider them. They have proven to be fatal in short ranges. Longer ranges or heavier clothing however, not so much.
It's my DiMMe

sqlbullet

Not only that, but I picked the 10mm for SD because I wanted penetration.  I am not going to compromise that by picking ammo that is designed not to penetrate.  If I carried consistently somewhere that this was a real concern, I would go to a different cartridge that carried less energy.

Tomcat 10

Pinsnscrews , Thank you for your input

Tomcat 10

Quote from: sqlbullet on June 11 2015 04:39:22 PM MDT
Not only that, but I picked the 10mm for SD because I wanted penetration.  I am not going to compromise that by picking ammo that is designed not to penetrate.  If I carried consistently somewhere that this was a real concern, I would go to a different cartridge that carried less energy.

They say it is high energy , but the chances of shooting through a BG is less .         Muzzle Velocity: 1650 fps
Muzzle Energy: 695 ft lbs
 
   I am not promoting this ammunition , just want input ,and opinions

4949shooter

Might be a good option for home defense. As was mentioned, I would test for reliability.

Tomcat 10

 I don't know about the Blue , but it says the Silver is loaded by Cor-Bon

4949shooter

I believe the silvers are listed on Corbon's website.

bandit3

I'd rather have Underwood 140 grain controlled fragmenting hollow points if I was worried about over penetration. I have some for my 10mms $38 for a box of 20. Everything I've ever got from Underwood is first class.

10mmfan

If I was that concerned about penetration I wouldn't be using a 10mm I'd use my 9mm with higher capacity.

sqlbullet

Quote from: Tomcat 10 on June 11 2015 05:38:05 PM MDT
They say it is high energy , but the chances of shooting through a BG is less .         Muzzle Velocity: 1650 fps
Muzzle Energy: 695 ft lbs
 
I am not promoting this ammunition , just want input ,and opinions

Yeah...I know the marketing claims.  I remember when Glaser was the new kid on the block in the late '80's.

The bad news for the energy claims is energy isn't what stops a bad guy.  There are two things that reliably stop an aggressor.

A central nervous system hit, which requires penetration but not energy.  I have dropped many a yearling cow with a single 40 grain 22 LR solid to the head.  That is about 90 lb-ft of energy.  Every one rolled up their legs and fell on the spot, dead before gravity pulled them to the ground.

Exsanguination, which is a $25 word for severe loss of blood.  And when getting someone who is trying to do you harm to bleed out, two holes are better than one.

Energy starts to play a role in this second scenario as a larger wound cavity will bleed more, and creates more likelihood of a disruption to a major artery or vein.

But, a rifle beats a pistol always and a 223 with the right ammo offers great would cavities, due to tumbling, and low barrier penetration in homes, also due to tumbling.  A Glaser in .400 is not long enough relative to speed and spin to be unstable in this way.

So, the end result is there are much better options in defense calibers that don't compromise nearly as much in terminal performance while still offering a reasonable chance of being stopped, or rendered highly ineffective, by a couple sheets of wall board.  And those options are far less money, so you can actually practice with them.  And practice results in not missing in the first place.

Tomcat 10

Quote from: 10mmfan on June 11 2015 07:34:54 PM MDT
If I was that concerned about penetration I wouldn't be using a 10mm I'd use my 9mm with higher capacity.

A 9mm 115 GR. FMJ will give you more penetration than you want .  That's why Law enforcement agencies went with hollow point ammunition .

my_old_glock



I had/have some in 357 magnum and 9mm. I shot them into wet phone-books, watermelons, water-jugs, and a few other things. I was not impressed. They didn't work any better than hollow-points or FMJ.


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