1911 recoil spring poundage

Started by Klock20, May 06 2015 01:50:38 PM MDT

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Klock20

Hey guys just purchased a Kimber custom two TLE 10 mm was wondering if anybody knew what the recoil spring poundage on a stock Kimber was and what poundage I should use for underwood type hot loads?  Someone told me 22 to 23 pounds but I figure it's always good to get a second opinion thank you.

The_Shadow

Those that I have communicated with using 10mm Kimbers were running the 22 lb Recoil, not sure if they changed the main springs.
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10mmfan

I don't recall what it is stock but you will get greater benefits by increasing your mainsping# and runing a flat bottom firing pin stop. I have a 18 1/2# recoil spring in my tle and I had feeding problems when I tried a 20#. 25# is the promoted weight for the mainsping I use 25# and 26# in my 10mm's

Mike_Fontenot

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Quote from: Klock20 on May 06 2015 01:50:38 PM MDT
Hey guys just purchased a Kimber custom two TLE 10 mm was wondering if anybody knew what the recoil spring poundage on a stock Kimber was and what poundage I should use for underwood type hot loads?  Someone told me 22 to 23 pounds but I figure it's always good to get a second opinion thank you.

My 10mm Eclipse Custom II (bought new about 3 years or so ago) came with an 18.5lb recoil spring.  It seemed to run best that way for me for a long time, despite the fact that I shot DoubleTaps (and some Underwoods for a while) almost exclusively.  I occasionally tried 20lb, and even 22lb springs, but they didn't cycle as well at that time.  But eventually I started to see some excessive wear with the 18.5lb spring (which had probably gotten noticeably weaker than when new, even though it had probably no more than a couple of hundred rounds on it), and I switched to 20lb.  I haven't seen any more evidence of battering, and my gun has been running well (after some extractor work by my 3rd gunsmith), and some chamber throating (by that same gunsmith).  BTW, I had been monitoring the rest-length of that 18.5lb spring all along, and I believed that it wasn't getting any weaker, because it quit losing any rest-length after the first couple of range trips.  But it definitely HAD gotten much weaker, and I've concluded that you CAN'T use rest-length as an indication of spring weakening ... BEWARE!  10mm's eat recoil springs.


Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: 10mmfan on May 06 2015 02:19:37 PM MDT
I don't recall what it is stock but you will get greater benefits by increasing your mainsping# and runing a flat bottom firing pin stop.

Just some additional info about my particular Kimber:  I use an 18lb hammer spring (=mainspring), and a flat-bottomed FPS.  When I initially put in my flat-bottomed FPS, I tried increasing the hammer spring, all the way to 28lb.  I didn't see any reduction in how far it threw the brass, or in the "firing-pin-wipe" on the primer craters. But I DID see a huge increase in trigger-pull.  I had had a very nice 2-1/4lb trigger with the 18lb hammer spring, so I went back to that.  But later, when I went to a 20lb recoil spring, I started getting hammer-follow when chambering the first round, so I had to increase my trigger-pull to 3lb ... I don't like it nearly as well as before, but that's that.

sqlbullet

In my 1911 wide body I run 18.5lb recoil, 25lb mainspring and flat bottom firing pin stop.  As long as COAL is below 1.250" it runs like a top.

Klock20

Thanks a lot mike!!!  I appreciate the detailed information it really helped I ordered a 20 pound recoil spring I think that should be sufficient I don't plan to shoot the gun a whole lot just enough to be efficient with it. it's more for Woods protection than anything. I shoot the crap out of my Glock 20 though  I've had my Glock for  years but I have small hands and I could never get over the grip size then somebody told me to do a grip reduction but I needed a good excuse to get a new 1911 anyways  :D

Klock20

And thank you to everyone else also really enjoy this form and think it will help out a lot in my 10 mm travels

dakota1911

Colt on their Deltas use two springs the larger outer spring is 16lb and not sure what the inner spring is.   Wolff Springs has a single 23lb spring as a replacement.  This is maintaining the same main (hammer) spring.  Since a 1911 is sort of a "dance of the springs" then changing the mainspring is also possible as the slide has to recock the hammer in a firing cycle.
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