Ultrasonic or Vibratory?

Started by Bro KV, August 23 2012 10:41:16 PM MDT

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DM1906

If noise is a concern with a vibratory, there are a lot of factors that increase or reduce the noise.  The quality of the machine is primary, followed by a balance of brass count, compared to media type and amount.  If it rattles a lot, add more media, or do smaller batches of brass, and you should be able to find a happy zone.  Walnut is generally more noisy than corn cob.  I have an old Hornady vibratory (bought mid-80's) that has a very thick tub, and a foam rubber insulated lid.  It's more quiet than any others I've used.
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sqlbullet

I was really surprised how quiet mine was.  I wouldn't want it running in the family room during a movie, but it is trivial to carry on a conversation over the noise.

wifecallsmegrumpy

Um.. today I worked out why it was noisy.  I found the bowl was loose.  ::)  All fixed.

Or so I thought, then i come back to find it has broken two fo the four mounts it sits on.  So off to find a replacement, any recommendations ?  I was thinking the big dillion unit :P

Glenn H

Lyman turbo 1200.  I run it in the garage and the noise doesn't bother me at all, until I go for a beer forgetting that it is running.  Startles me a bit.  :o

For who ever mentioned putting in a cut up used dryer sheet upthread, thank you very much. Haven't heard that before and put one in the last batch I ran.  Worked a charm.

Vice

Liquid/SS pins is in vogue right now, but way too messy and time consuming for me.

I'm stay'n old school.



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wifecallsmegrumpy

Bit of an update.

I am planning to take next week off and hang around at home doing stuff. Hopefully get the 10mm STI cycling and develop an accurate load.

After the RCBS busted it's mounts I had a half hearted attempt at fixing it but decided to give up. So I bought a Dillon Cv750 and media seperator, cost me about $300 for the pair including freight which is on par with the US cost plus shipping due to the bulky nature of the products.  Even better the postie arrived this morning with them after the wife had left for work so I could sneek them out to the man cave and avoid the ear bashing  :D

Cannot wait to get home and get some 10mm brass cleaning so I can have a productive week next week !

The stainless media is still in the back of my mind but I have tried cleaning brass with water based solutions before and getting them dry is a PITA.

Bro KV

When you guys use the vibration method do you have to use compressed air to remove the dust?

wifecallsmegrumpy

Not sure where the dust is accumulating for you, but I normally put in some turps (mineral turpintine) and that keeps the dust down and gives the shells a bit of lubrication through the dies.

Even without it my media never seems to breakdown enough to cause lots of dust.

sqlbullet

Don't blow the dust.  It is really toxic and readily absorbed if inhaled.  Most people at the cast boolits forum who have had issues with elevated lead levels in blood have tracked it back to either indoor ranges or dealing with the dust from spent primers in their tumblers.

I like to use old dryer sheets soaked with whatever oil is handy around the bench. Usually it is WD 40 or Kroil.  Mineral spirits have been used too.

The_Shadow

Charcoal lighter fluid is what I use, doesn't vaporize too fast (below 100 deg.)  That will the dryer sheets (cut into 1" squares) will collect the dust.  Disposse of the dryer sheets after each batch.

Be careful with penetrating oils as they can impregnate the pores of the brass, this could lead to degradation of the metal over time.  Stay away from anything with ammonia (formula N H 3) in it, not good for barss at all!
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Yondering

I use a paper towel cut into strips, about 1" wide. These seem to collect the dust even better than dryer sheets. Depending on what's in the tumbler, sometimes I use a whole sheet but usually just half.

I've also quit using the Lyman treated walnut media because of the dust. It cleans well, but corn cob with Dillon polish is cleaner, with very little dust.

Ramjet

Another trick with regards to the noise is I put my unit on a piece of 1" dense foam.

I cover the unit with a piece of plastic bag while running keeps the dust contained.

The_Shadow

Quote from: Ramjet on September 13 2012 11:59:04 AM MDT
Another trick with regards to the noise is I put my unit on a piece of 1" dense foam.

I cover the unit with a piece of plastic bag while running keeps the dust contained.

Be careful not to hamper the electric motor from being able to cool itself during operation...
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Bro KV

Quote from: The_Shadow on September 13 2012 09:15:18 AM MDT
Charcoal lighter fluid is what I use, doesn't vaporize too fast (below 100 deg.)  That will the dryer sheets (cut into 1" squares) will collect the dust.  Disposse of the dryer sheets after each batch.

Be careful with penetrating oils as they can impregnate the pores of the brass, this could lead to degradation of the metal over time.  Stay away from anything with ammonia (formula N H 3) in it, not good for barss at all!

When you say you cut sheets into 1" squares, do you put a bunch of the squares in a bowl with the cases or in a bag?

Sorry everyone for all the newb questions. I did not know about the dust being toxic so thanks.

The_Shadow

I place about two complete dryer sheet cut into 1" squares, loosely into the bowl with the corn cob media and 200 brass.

Before I place the brass into the bowl, I sprinkle abot a tablespoon of Charcoal lighter fluid in the corn cob media to vibra mix around to preven clumping...
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