10mm pull downs

Started by Julian537, April 06 2015 02:35:32 PM MDT

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Julian537

how does everyone pull down 10mm loads? I have a hornady collet puller, but it will not grab the bullets, because of how deep they are seated in a 10mm. I hate using the inertia puller/hammer thing. It takes so long and is just a pain.

nickE10mm


I use an inertia hammer puller. Couple of hard raps in a concrete floor and boom- bullet is out

redbaron007

Quote from: nickE10mm on April 06 2015 03:10:30 PM MDT

I use an inertia hammer puller. Couple of hard raps in a concrete floor and boom- bullet is out

BOOM!!!   :o     :))
Some days it's just good to be lucky; rather than just good looking!

The_Shadow

I use the Kinetic type puller, but i strike it against the end grain of a 4x4 block about 20" long standing on the floor...
When I strike it is like a "dead blow" hammer trying to keep it from bouncing, I watch the bullet movement because I just want it to drop free.  I place a clean sheet of typing paper on my desk, place the scale pan in the middle of the paper, slide the bullet out of the puller and into my scale pan, taking care not to lose any of the powder.

Be sure the inside of the puller is clean, I use a paper towel rolled up wooden dowel to twist it inside.
A small paint brush can be used to brush powder kernels off you fingers or that sticks to the bullet into you scale pan.

Take your time, its not a sledgehammer, think of it as a tack hammer... 
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Julian537

Thank you all for the replies.

The_Shadow

Nick, you're going to have Julian pissin' in his pants!  LOL

The chuck in the kinetic type puller, you can place the rounded side down on a table, slide the base of the cartridge down into it, that keeps the three little jaws from popping out of the "o" ring or spring depending on the type.

You can use a standard shellholder in place of the three jaw chuck to hold the cartridge as well.

For Soft tip rifle bullets I place a piece of paper towel rolled into a ball in the puller's tube, so the bullet doesn't get damaged.

I don't know how many bullets other pull with theirs but I have pulled many thousands "SAFELY" doing the Pull-Down documentations and other ammo pull-downs!
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cwlongshot

Quote from: The_Shadow on April 06 2015 03:20:32 PM MDT
I use the Kinetic type puller, but i strike it against the end grain of a 4x4 block about 20" long standing on the floor...
When I strike it is like a "dead blow" hammer trying to keep it from bouncing, I watch the bullet movement because I just want it to drop free.  I place a clean sheet of typing paper on my desk, place the scale pan in the middle of the paper, slide the bullet out of the puller and into my scale pan, taking care not to lose any of the powder.

Be sure the inside of the puller is clean, I use a paper towel rolled up wooden dowel to twist it inside.
A small paint brush can be used to brush powder kernels off you fingers or that sticks to the bullet into you scale pan.

Take your time, its not a sledgehammer, think of it as a tack hammer...

I use a packing "peanut". ;)

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The_Shadow

Here are two other things that you will notice as you pull bullets with the kinetic type puller...

The lighter the bullets can be the hardest to pull free, they lack the weight to get them moving.  Those uber light for caliber projectiles that the sell with the hyper velocities will come loose too.  :P
Heavily crimped and roll bullets, can also take quite a bit to get them moving past the crimp, but they will move past and get easier.

Pulling bullets with gas checks...sometimes the check can stick inside the casing.  Take a ice pick or small screwdriver and push down on the inside edge of the gas check and it will tip over and then you can grab it with a needle nose pliers and gently lift it out of the casing.  If you happen to get a very difficult check, you can set the casing off centered in the shellholder using a deprimer pin screwed into a upside down die to tip the check over so it can be removed... ;)
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Taterhead

#8
Using the end grain of some hard wood, like Shadow describes, it the way to go if using a kinetic puller. He's also right that heavier bullets are much easier. Trying to pull 55 gr 223 bullets is some work with a kinetic puller. I have likely pulled more than 1000 bullets with mine, mostly 40 caliber. I've come across garage/estate sale reloads that I've pulled down for components. One thing that is striking is how you can tell how easily neck tension is lost through excessive crimp. Those just plop right out.

When the bullet profile permits, using a collet puller is so much easier if you have some volume to do.

I have actually shot stuck gas checks out of the cases. You need a BIG backstop since those things fly out like Frisbees. No recoil.

nickE10mm

Quote from: redbaron007 on April 06 2015 03:16:42 PM MDT
Quote from: nickE10mm on April 06 2015 03:10:30 PM MDT

I use an inertia hammer puller. Couple of hard raps in a concrete floor and boom- bullet is out

BOOM!!!   :o     :))


LOL.... annnnnnd boom goes the dynamite.


cwall64

I guess I am the only one that votes for the RCBS Collet Bullet Puller!  I have tried the kinetic type and I seem to alway separate the lead and jacket a little (on my Hornady XTPs and HAPs), but with the collet puller it is just so much easier to me and no damage to the bullet.
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The_Shadow

CWall64, every one of the pull-downs listed here have been pulled with the RCBS Kinetic puller by me, every last one of them were reloaded and most have been sent back to Intercooler or shot by me for further testing.  We have only had a couple, where the primer mixture may have gotten disturbed and didn't ignite the powder charge...However I had seen where some have seen the cores look like the squirted out of the jacket.  I have no idea how they managed that. ::)

None of the projectiles were messed up so far, but I have my method of doing these down to a science!  :D LOL  This includes those with gas checks which can stay in the casing, but have managed to tip them sideways and remove and reinstall them back on the bullet.  Have pulled those Pow-r-Ball by Corbin, the Double Tap dual projectiles and even the frangibles so far without any issues...

Extra care is needed when I pull spitzer soft tipped are any pointed rifle bullets as to not damage the points, I use a wad of paper towel in the bottom of the pullet to cushion the tip of the bullet as it drops free.  Some use a styrofoam peanut, whatever works.

I suppose I should try a collet type but haven't had the need.

My method I use;
QuoteI use the Kinetic type puller, but i strike it against the end grain of a 4x4 block about 20" long standing on the floor...
When I strike it is like a "dead blow" hammer trying to keep it from bouncing, I watch the bullet movement because I just want it to drop free.  I place a clean sheet of typing paper on my desk, place the scale pan in the middle of the paper, slide the bullet out of the puller and into my scale pan, taking care not to lose any of the powder.

Be sure the inside of the puller is clean, I use a paper towel rolled up wooden dowel to twist it inside.
A small paint brush can be used to brush powder kernels off you fingers or that sticks to the bullet into you scale pan.

Take your time, its not a sledgehammer, think of it as a tack hammer...
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
NRA Life Member
Southeast, LoUiSiAna

cwall64

Here is what happens to me with the RCBS kinetic puller (Hornady 180 grain XTP, i threw the lead core away when it came out and used the puller die to get the case out)!





I have had the RCBS Collet Puller for probably 30 years, it was nice to just order the correct collet/insert and now pulling 40 S&W and 10mm...  I have been know to go at things a little hard and probably was gorilla fisting the hammer!!!
Houston, TX
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The_Shadow

Wow, I have seen others that have had them shed the inside cores, but it was usually being struck on steel or concrete surfaces.  Using the end grain of the 4x4 helps to get things out without the harsh shock of a unforgiving surface.

I like the collet operation just too cheap to buy them I suppose! ::)
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cwall64

Quote from: The_Shadow on May 05 2015 07:19:56 PM MDT
Wow, I have seen others that have had them shed the inside cores, but it was usually being struck on steel or concrete surfaces.  Using the end grain of the 4x4 helps to get things out without the harsh shock of a unforgiving surface.

I like the collet operation just too cheap to buy them I suppose! ::)

Funny thing, I was setting up my new Dillon XL650 and I got one that I couldn't pull with the die puller (couldn't get a tight enough grip) - so I used your trick of hitting wood (whole firewood log on end) and it worked perfectly!  So, thanks for the tip!!!
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