Official 2016 Election Thread

Started by Patriot, March 07 2015 06:35:25 AM MST

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Patriot

Quote from: Wolfie on March 07 2015 02:35:22 PM MST
Patriot, Bush meant well I voted for him twice, but what happens when the GOP is in charge, they let Wall Street run wild.

No SEC enforcement that cratered the economy.

Bush I S&L Scandal

Bush II GOP Great Recession

Clinton I Good times for all.

Who are you going to bet on? A Bush or Clinton economy? Hillary crushes him and wins Florida.

How old are you really? Because I remember my paychecks being taxed like 30% under Clinton. Almost a third of my check man. Throw in other taxes and the California state income tax I was paying at the time, and half my check went to taxes. Fuck Bill Clinton.

I repeat FUCK BILL CLINTON

The Bush tax cuts are keeping my family afloat.

Wolfie

Never voted for Clinton.

But Clinton had us on path to be DEBT FREE.

I would vote for him now in a heartbeat.

my_old_glock

Quote from: Patriot on March 07 2015 02:58:09 PM MST
Quote from: Wolfie on March 07 2015 02:35:22 PM MST
Patriot, Bush meant well I voted for him twice, but what happens when the GOP is in charge, they let Wall Street run wild.

No SEC enforcement that cratered the economy.

Bush I S&L Scandal

Bush II GOP Great Recession

Clinton I Good times for all.

Who are you going to bet on? A Bush or Clinton economy? Hillary crushes him and wins Florida.

How old are you really? Because I remember my paychecks being taxed like 30% under Clinton. Almost a third of my check man. Throw in other taxes and the California state income tax I was paying at the time, and half my check went to taxes. Fuck Bill Clinton.

I repeat FUCK BILL CLINTON

The Bush tax cuts are keeping my family afloat.


I would never vote for Clinton, and he didn't do anything great anyways, but I do remember $1/gal gasoline. Clinton sunk a few nails in this countries coffin when he allowed China to freely trade with the U.S. He put a lot of people out of business.


Bush's 0% FED loans and tax cuts sank me.

I made less under Clinton, but had more. I made even less under Reagan, and had still more than I had under Clinton.



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Mike_Fontenot

Quote from: Wolfie on March 07 2015 03:46:51 PM MST
Never voted for Clinton.

But Clinton had us on path to be DEBT FREE.

I would vote for him now in a heartbeat.

If you're really serious (which I somewhat doubt), you don't value your gun rights.

P33v3

Quote from: Patriot on March 07 2015 02:58:09 PM MST
Quote from: Wolfie on March 07 2015 02:35:22 PM MST
Patriot, Bush meant well I voted for him twice, but what happens when the GOP is in charge, they let Wall Street run wild.

No SEC enforcement that cratered the economy.

Bush I S&L Scandal

Bush II GOP Great Recession

Clinton I Good times for all.

Who are you going to bet on? A Bush or Clinton economy? Hillary crushes him and wins Florida.

How old are you really? Because I remember my paychecks being taxed like 30% under Clinton. Almost a third of my check man. Throw in other taxes and the California state income tax I was paying at the time, and half my check went to taxes. Fuck Bill Clinton.

I repeat FUCK BILL CLINTON

The Bush tax cuts are keeping my family afloat.

Well stated, Patriot. I same the same about his Saul Alinsky following Socialist Wife.

Wolfie

Yeah Mike, I don't value gun rights. I only own about 8 long guns, 30 handguns and before my kids learn to drive they need to be proficient in a rifle and shotgun. Yes, my kids know how to operate a rifle and shotgun before they get their drivers licenses.

But since I don't approve of mounting a .50 on the roof of my pickup, I don't value gun rights.

Keep posting Mike looking forward to debating you.

Rich10

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Quote from: Wolfie on March 07 2015 05:02:38 PM MST
Yeah Mike, I don't value gun rights. I only own about 8 long guns, 30 handguns......

But since I don't approve of mounting a .50 on the roof of my pickup, I don't value my gun rights.

How about being able to own or buy new guns or magazines that hold more than 10rnds?  Saying how many guns you own gives you no cred...  being willing to throw others rights away (specifically gun rights) because you don't think they need them is despicable.

Why wouldn't you approve of a M2HB on the roof?  Just your pickup's roof or anyone's pickup?

Quote from: Wolfie on March 07 2015 05:02:38 PM MST
....and before my kids learn to drive they need to be proficient in a rifle and shotgun. Yes, my kids know how to operate a rifle and shotgun before they get their drivers licenses.

That's not really a big deal.  It is the responsible thing to do, something many kids can do by age 10.


Rich10

#22
Let's get back on track?

So, Clinton should be unelectable.  Who will the dems trot out?  Warren or O'Malley?

Re-pukelicans (GGAAAWWWWW, the way they are dealing with the dems....they are so fricking weak :-\)  Who's their guy?  Walker, Cruz, Rubio, Jeb, Paul ....?

Wolfie

Of course owning guns give me cred, I exercise my Second Amendment rights.

I want Webb for President.

EdMc

I'd vote for Jim Webb....but he has little chance of getting the Dem nomination. Their controlling group is more far left. The Rep power brokers are all in for more big government, so their candidate is Jeb. If it's Clinton-Bush as the two to chose from I'll sit this one out for the first time in my adult life.

Patriot

Quote from: EdMc on March 08 2015 08:52:56 AM MDT
I'd vote for Jim Webb....but he has little chance of getting the Dem nomination. Their controlling group is more far left. The Rep power brokers are all in for more big government, so their candidate is Jeb. If it's Clinton-Bush as the two to chose from I'll sit this one out for the first time in my adult life.

I don't get it. I keep seeing this from "gun owners." Any vote for any GOP guy, including Jeb Bush, is a vote for gun rights. A non vote is a vote for Hillary. And probably a return to the Clinton gun ban.  :o

Wolfie

The liberals own the Democrats and business owns the GOP.

Whats ironic about Webb, he is more of a Classical Liberal that Conservatives like.

Hillary is a corporatist neocon, can Webb exploit that? I doubt it, I think the country wants a women president.

Wolfie

Patriot, last night Jeb called for immigration reform not deportation. Today he calls for REPLACING Obamacare.

Dudes a LIBERAL and he will lose.

Some people have pride and honor. Don't judge them on one issue.

10mmfan

Quote from: Wolfie on March 08 2015 09:44:21 AM MDT
Patriot, last night Jeb called for immigration reform not deportation. Today he calls for REPLACING Obamacare.

Dudes a LIBERAL and he will lose.

Some people have pride and honor. Don't judge them on one issue.

I agree with wolfie for once on something political.  Jeb Bush is a liberal but possibly a fiscal conservative. Hell he is getting large donations from pro-choice groups.

Patriot

Quote from: 10mmfan on March 08 2015 10:19:59 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 08 2015 09:44:21 AM MDT
Patriot, last night Jeb called for immigration reform not deportation. Today he calls for REPLACING Obamacare.

Dudes a LIBERAL and he will lose.

Some people have pride and honor. Don't judge them on one issue.

I agree with wolfie for once on something political.  Jeb Bush is a liberal but possibly a fiscal conservative. Hell he is getting large donations from pro-choice groups.

That's the thing. Abortion is a dead issue. It's never getting overturned. Gay marriage is probably going to be made legal nationwide by the supreme court. It's a dead issue. The majority of the country support both. Deporting all of these illegals isn't going to happen. There isn't enough money in the budget to handle that case load. Jeb Bush is the type of republican that can get elected in this current America. He supports gun rights, did well with the Florida economy. That might be the best bet right now. A far right candidate will not win right now. Someone in the middle is needed. Jeb Bush is that person.


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