Official 2016 Election Thread

[Patriot]

To keep the forum from being overloaded with 2016 election threads, let's try to keep the discussion in this thread. I'll start us off with some poll updates. The newest Quinnipiac Poll shows Scott Walker in the lead for the republican nomination with 18%, and Jeb Bush at 16%.

However, Jeb Bush became the clear frontrunner if Scott Walker doesn't run.

The bad news for republicans? Every poll seems to show a Clinton victory over any republican nominee. The Quinnipiac poll showed Clinton was favored 48% over Walker's 38% and Clinton favored 45% over 42% for Bush.

Clinton lead all democrats with 56%.

[my_old_glock]

To keep the forum from being overloaded with 2016 election threads, let's try to keep the discussion in this thread. I'll start us off with some poll updates. The newest Quinnipiac Poll shows Scott Walker in the lead for the republican nomination with 18%, and Jeb Bush at 16%.

However, Jeb Bush became the clear frontrunner if Scott Walker doesn't run.

The bad news for republicans? Every poll seems to show a Clinton victory over any republican nominee. The Quinnipiac poll showed Clinton was favored 48% over Walker's 38% and Clinton favored 45% over 42% for Bush.

Clinton lead all democrats with 56%.

Hilarious Clinton was also favored over McStain, but Obozo won.

California is lost, so it doesn't matter who I vote for president.


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[Patriot]

To keep the forum from being overloaded with 2016 election threads, let's try to keep the discussion in this thread. I'll start us off with some poll updates. The newest Quinnipiac Poll shows Scott Walker in the lead for the republican nomination with 18%, and Jeb Bush at 16%.

However, Jeb Bush became the clear frontrunner if Scott Walker doesn't run.

The bad news for republicans? Every poll seems to show a Clinton victory over any republican nominee. The Quinnipiac poll showed Clinton was favored 48% over Walker's 38% and Clinton favored 45% over 42% for Bush.

Clinton lead all democrats with 56%.

Hilarious Clinton was also favored over McStain, but Obozo won.

California is lost, so it doesn't matter who I vote for president.


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I know. I left California and never looked back. Moved to Seattle, but a bunch of liberal Californians followed shortly after with the tech boom. Washington then became a liberal toonfest. I finally had to leave there too. Now I'm in Florida. Gun laws are good here, for now anyway.

[Wolfie]

Hillary Clinton got more votes than Obama in 2008. She lost caucuses similar to the Electoral College. The Hillary spread will evaporate and she will win by a 4-5%.

Walker cannot win Ohio a big union state in a presidential year. Without OH or FL, the GOP cannot win. However she can win without both.

[Patriot]

Hillary Clinton got more votes than Obama in 2008. She lost caucuses similar to the Electoral College. The Hillary spread will evaporate and she will win by a 4-5%.

Walker cannot win Ohio a big union state in a presidential year. Without OH or FL, the GOP cannot win. However she can win without both.

That's why I think Jeb has the best shot. He can win Florida and Ohio. He can also win the moderate votes in every state except maybe CA and NY. That won't make true conservatives happy but if the alternative is Hillary I predict they will change their tunes.

[my_old_glock]

Visual image of a democracy.

Imagine a large broken down rust bucket, with a bunch of whiners in the back seat looking to get a free ride, deciding which person in the back seat will get a chance to drive the broken down car.



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[Wolfie]

Jeb has no shot.

Clinton left a economy that everyone did well with.

Both Bush's left disasters.

Thats all 2016 will be about, plus Jeb takes a lot of negatives away from her like Mitt did with Obama.

The GOP needs to find a non elected businessman or general to have a chance.

[Patriot]

Jeb has no shot.

Clinton left a economy that everyone did well with.

Both Bush's left disasters.

Thats all 2016 will be about, plus Jeb takes a lot of negatives away from her like Mitt did with Obama.

The GOP needs to find a non elected businessman or general to have a chance.

Bush had to fix Clinton's mistakes.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/bushrecord/factsheets/taxrelief.html

[Wolfie]

Clinton left a balanced budget that if Bush left alone, would have this country DEBT FREE in 2012. Bush decided on 2 tax cuts instead and said it would end the debt in 2007.

How that turn out.

Lets talk about Fannie and Freddie, a GOP bill could not get out of a GOP senate subcommittee.

Bush fixed Clintons mistakes yeah thats it, Jeb needs to run on that instead of this.

TODAY

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush offered a strenuous defense for a pathway to legalization for immigrants in the country illegally at a summit in Iowa on Saturday.

"Immigrants that are here need to have a path to legal status," Bush said. "Nobody I know has a plan to deal with illegal immigration other than to just say they're going to be rounded up and taken away."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/234962-bush-offers-strenuous-defense-of-immigration-stance-in-iowa

[Patriot]

Clinton left a balanced budget that if Bush left alone, would have this country DEBT FREE in 2012. Bush decided on 2 tax cuts instead and said it would end the debt in 2007.

How that turn out.

Lets talk about Fannie and Freddie, a GOP bill could not get out of a GOP senate subcommittee.

Bush fixed Clintons mistakes yeah thats it, Jeb needs to run on that instead of this.

TODAY

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush offered a strenuous defense for a pathway to legalization for immigrants in the country illegally at a summit in Iowa on Saturday.

"Immigrants that are here need to have a path to legal status," Bush said. "Nobody I know has a plan to deal with illegal immigration other than to just say they're going to be rounded up and taken away."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/234962-bush-offers-strenuous-defense-of-immigration-stance-in-iowa

Exactly, Bush warned about the Fanny and Freddy thing in his budget. The congress didn't listen. t was documented in that link I posted.

"The Administration warned of the risk that government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac posed to America's financial security beginning in 2001.  President Bush's first budget warned that "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets."  In 2003, the Administration began calling for a new GSE regulator.  Despite resistance from Congress, President Bush continued to call for GSE reform until Congress finally acted in 2008 to provide the additional oversight the President requested five years earlier.  Unfortunately, the reform came too late to prevent systemic consequences."

The congress screwed it up, not Bush.

[Wolfie]

A Republican House and Senate.

Expanding Home Ownership

"This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."

- President George W. Bush, December 16, 2003

The Accomplishments

Increasing Homeownership

The US homeownership rate reached a record 69.2 percent in the second quarter of 2004. The number of homeowners in the United States reached 73.4 million, the most ever. And for the first time, the majority of minority Americans own their own homes.
The President set a goal to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.

President Bush signed the $200 million-per-year American Dream Downpayment Act which will help approximately 40,000 families each year with their downpayment and closing costs.

The Administration proposed the Zero-Downpayment Initiative to allow the Federal Housing Administration to insure mortgages for first-time homebuyers without a downpayment. Projections indicate this could generate over 150,000 new homeowners in the first year alone.
President Bush proposed a new Single Family Affordable Housing Tax Credit to increase the supply of affordable homes.

The President has proposed to more than double funding for the Self-Help Homeownership Opportunity Program (SHOP), where government and non-profit organizations work closely together to increase homeownership opportunities.

The President proposed $2.7 billion in USDA home loan guarantees to support rural homeownership and $1.1 billion in direct loans for low-income borrowers unable to secure a mortgage through a conventional lender. These loans are expected to provide 42,800 homeownership opportunities to rural families across America.

[Wolfie]

The President set a goal to increase the number of MINORITY homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.

The Administration proposed the ZERO DOWNPAYMENT Initiative to allow the Federal Housing Administration to insure mortgages for first-time homebuyers without a downpayment. Projections indicate this could generate over 150,000 new homeowners in the first year alone.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/achievement/chap7.html

[Patriot]

You act like those things Bush wanted were bad. More minorities owning homes? That's bad to democrats. Democrats can't have minorities owning homes and all that. They want them in low income housing communities, giving jobs to more government employees to run them.

[my_old_glock]

Bush had to fix Clinton's mistakes.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/bushrecord/factsheets/taxrelief.html

The honest people of the U.S. do not need another Bush "fix."

The clown known as GW did more to destroy this country than any "terrorist."


Never again will I vote Republican.



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[Wolfie]

Patriot, Bush meant well I voted for him twice, but what happens when the GOP is in charge, they let Wall Street run wild.

No SEC enforcement that cratered the economy.

Bush I S&L Scandal

Bush II GOP Great Recession

Clinton I Good times for all.

Who are you going to bet on? A Bush or Clinton economy? Hillary crushes him and wins Florida.