10mm for Grizzly protection

Intercooler · March 05 2015 04:36:48 PM MST

A friend put this up today

Anymore questions why you need a BIGGER one and maybe the 10mm as a back-up? ${$default_shocked_smiley}$

Pablo · March 05 2015 07:28:20 PM MST

Yeah, backup with 19 round mag of HOT 200gr hard cast. ${$default_shocked_smiley}$

Primary = big rifle.

mag360 · March 05 2015 09:27:06 PM MST

This makes me laugh at the 10mm or 357 being considered a woods gun. At least a .30-06 with 200gr bonded bullets and a 500 s&w hardcast

Freetime · March 06 2015 12:36:31 AM MST

That bear makes any handgun a bad choice. Most any place does not have bears like that (grizzly/brown) and 10mm is great then.

tommac919 · March 06 2015 08:14:40 AM MST

with that, my backup would be 12g with slugs... pistols are just to small ${$default_shocked_smiley}$

Pablo · March 06 2015 08:23:16 AM MST

So let's postulate.

If you had say a Glock with a 6" barrel, with the hottest possible 200gr ammo and NO OTHER GUN and a slim chance of firing into that beast.....would he just think they are mosquito bites........a full 19 rounds, well placed.

I am truly curious.

Intercooler · March 06 2015 10:58:15 AM MST

I can supply you with the 19 if you want to try ${$default_grin_smiley}$

Freetime · March 06 2015 11:15:52 AM MST

Pablo, no, the shots would hurt, and piss him off. Can it kill him? Of course it can and with several hits it would probably die eventually by not before he ripped the shooter apart. and there is a difference in hunting with the 10mm and self deffence or back up with a 10mm. If it's all I had and I was being attacked of course I would do my best to defend myself.

Centimeter · March 06 2015 01:30:14 PM MST

Quote from: Freetime on March 06 2015 11:15:52 AM MST
Pablo, no, the shots would hurt, and piss him off. Can it kill him? Of course it can and with several hits it would probably die eventually by not before he ripped the shooter apart. and there is a difference in hunting with the 10mm and self deffence or back up with a 10mm. If it's all I had and I was being attacked of course I would do my best to defend myself.

Yeah, unless you can get off some seriously accurate, seriously quick, rounds there's going to be very little you can do against an attacking bear of that size ${$default_shocked_smiley}$ As a last ditch effort, to at least go out swinging, I'd do whatever I could even if it was futile. Maybe you'll get lucky; it couldn't hurt... Certainly not any more than it's going to! ${$default_laugh_smiley}$

Pablo · March 06 2015 01:33:57 PM MST

OK thanks. Still best to shoot your buddy in the leg.

Centimeter · March 06 2015 01:35:30 PM MST

Quote from: Pablo on March 06 2015 01:33:57 PM MST
OK thanks. Still best to shoot your buddy in the leg.

Also a viable strategy ${$default_laugh_smiley}$

Geeman · March 06 2015 06:08:45 PM MST

Quote from: Freetime on March 06 2015 12:36:31 AM MST
That bear makes any handgun a bad choice. Most any place does not have bears like that (grizzly/brown) and 10mm is great then.

No follow up but the power is there.

416 Rigby beside 30-06 casing Laying down...

And standing up.

4300 ft-lb out of a 350g soft nose pushed by 95g of Reloder17. Got to make the first one count because follow-up shots are a b!+c#.

Greg

Intercooler · March 06 2015 06:57:17 PM MST

They say Bear spray is also very effective. I think I would carry some of that as well. If something happened and I had to be in close, that may take out the vision enough to get away.

rw · March 06 2015 11:55:29 PM MST

My solution for grizzly protection? stay the hell out of grizzly territory. I dont go places where there is a much larger mammal higher up the food chain than me... That includes a lot of potential shark territory. Seen too many in areas where they arent commonly supposed to be.

gandog56 · March 07 2015 09:40:14 AM MST

I mean I'm sorry. I love my 10mm pistols, but if mean Mr. Grizzly is around, I want my .454 Casull!