I am officially DONE with the damn Republicans....

Started by Buckeye 50, February 25 2015 06:09:03 PM MST

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Patriot

I keep seeing people saying they are done with republicans and will only vote independent or stay home on election day. That just isn't going to work next election. We need a republican. We have to have a republican. I don't care if it's the most worthless RINO. We need someone who isn't going to veto every damn thing going through the congress. We need to get someone in there so we can relax and stop worrying about gun control as much. Vote independent any other election that you want, but it is IMPERATIVE that we get ANY republican in the president's seat in 2016. We cannot afford to have another democrat in office for the next 4-8 years. They will continue with the executive orders that the congress can't override without a majority. Little by little those executive orders will take more and more away. You think Obama is bad? Hillary Clinton is much worse.

Pablo

Quote from: Patriot on February 27 2015 07:52:00 AM MST
I keep seeing people saying they are done with republicans and will only vote independent or stay home on election day. That just isn't going to work next election. We need a republican. We have to have a PRO GUN republican. I don't care if it's the most worthless PRO GUN  RINO. We need someone who isn't going to veto every damn thing going through the congress. We need to get someone in there so we can relax and stop worrying about gun control as much. Vote independent any other election that you want, but it is IMPERATIVE that we get ANY republican in the president's seat in 2016. We cannot afford to have another democrat in office for the next 4-8 years. They will continue with the executive orders that the congress can't override without a majority. Little by little those executive orders will take more and more away. You think Obama is bad? Hillary Clinton is much MUCH MUCH MUCH worse.

Fixed your post for you.  ;D

Patriot

Quote from: Pablo on February 27 2015 07:55:23 AM MST
Quote from: Patriot on February 27 2015 07:52:00 AM MST
I keep seeing people saying they are done with republicans and will only vote independent or stay home on election day. That just isn't going to work next election. We need a republican. We have to have a PRO GUN republican. I don't care if it's the most worthless PRO GUN  RINO. We need someone who isn't going to veto every damn thing going through the congress. We need to get someone in there so we can relax and stop worrying about gun control as much. Vote independent any other election that you want, but it is IMPERATIVE that we get ANY republican in the president's seat in 2016. We cannot afford to have another democrat in office for the next 4-8 years. They will continue with the executive orders that the congress can't override without a majority. Little by little those executive orders will take more and more away. You think Obama is bad? Hillary Clinton is much MUCH MUCH MUCH worse.

Fixed your post for you.  ;D

Yes, that rules out Chris Christie, but I'll take just about any other of the potentials.

Wolfie

We need a Republican in to do what?

Pass more tax cuts for the rich? Deregulate? More Elective War? The same crap that got Obama in.

The GOP ran on stopping Obamacare and illegals, they gave it up for more campaign cash and bank deregulation. Republicans are only out for power so they can make cash and crush the poor and middle class. Not saying the Democrats are better, but Democrats KEEP their campaign promises.

Not one person here can say a Republican can.

To prove how big phonies the GOP are, at this weeks CPAC, none are talking about Gay Marriage that the GOP run US Supreme Court will rule as the law of the land very soon.

There are not even real conservative movements anymore, they are just GOP farm teams.

Rich10

Exactly what promises have been kept by Democrats?

Wolfie


Rich10

Quote from: Wolfie on February 27 2015 11:30:33 AM MST
Healthcare and Gay Marriage just under Obama.

Is Obamacare something to be proud of?

Obama did run opposed to gay marriage in '08.....  Democrat bluebloods have only been pro gay marriage about 4 years..

Rich10

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Democrats are the party of federal gun bans (now ammunition also), bashing christians (and other religious groups), maintaining a status quo poor population for a base, restricting existing rights, creating racial tension, progressive, socialist idealogy in general, etc.... I could go on.

How anyone doesn't vote for folks with more libertarian views??  I don't get it.

Wolfie

I love Obamacare, I don't have to worry about going bankrupt. That freed money I saved in case of emergency up. I bought a sports car a bike and more guns. I also don't have to pay for my kids healthcare while in college, saving me 100K right there.

Gay Marriage occurred as the GOP used it as a Wedge Issue to get elected and did nothing about it. When Republicans AFFIRM it as the law of that land, give credit to the GOP.

I have no problem with gun control that was under Clinton, whats wrong with background checks?

As for poor, ever drive through the south outside the interstate? I did, all I saw was a bunch of poor GOP counties loaded with poor whites and blacks.

Racism? Nobody does it better than the GOP. You know "my friend." Barack the Magic Negro and so on.

Socialism? Who created more socialist programs Bush or Obama? Hint the Republican.

Now you can disagree with me and thats fine, but what is your solution?

my_old_glock

Quote from: Buckeye 50 on February 26 2015 04:11:08 PM MST
I consider myself a classic, traditional conservative (whatever that means).  I believe in old-time, fundamental values of right/wrong, being accountable, believing that freedom is a gift and our founding fathers were WAYYY smarter filled with more WISDOM than any of us now.

I was born in 1952.  Right or wrong, I remember when I was growing up and until the late 1960's, everything seemed to work really well, things were in their right order filled with respect, dignity, value and faith.  Somewhere, here in the U.S. if not the world, the train jumped the track AND has remained off.

I have no idea if or how to ever get the genie back in the bottle.  I really miss the simple things and how uncomplicated life was and how happy everyone seemed.  It is easy for me say that liberals are to blame, but I didn't feel that way in the 1960's.  I DID in the 1970's and beyond.  That's when seemingly the illogical stuff started - judges taking the side of criminals, anti-military - hell, I remember when veterans were booed in the Vietnam era at 4th of July parades.  Fortunately, SOMEHOW, we got back on the side of supporting Americans sacrificing for other Americans and shortly after 9/11 4th of July parades were once again true celebrations and veterans were given standing ovations and cheers!

Don't know where I am going with this other that everything is SOOOOO messed up, I am afraid an "acceptable" fix could take another 40 years to accomplish.

Beware he who asks for blanket powers to solve such deep AND broad problems.  For possibly, the table could be setting up for the anti-Christ.  If you don't know this name/phrase, look it up.

Everyone will need to be strong as the first parts of a fix will be the toughest.

Pat


I think the train officially jumped the track in 1961 (The American Civil War), but it wasn't noticed until much later.

Other events that helped seal America's fate.

1913 Federal Reserve Act
1933 Gold Confiscation Act
1935 Social Security Act
1964 and 1968 Civil Rights Act
...and others I don't feel like looking up.

The reason why it will never get fixed is because although Americans like to put up an image that they are tough and hard working, most in fact are not. Most people here are a bunch of lazy assed cowards who run away or come up with excuse when something needs to be done. Most are afraid of losing what they have. They hope the house of cards will stay up a little longer until they die. After that, they don't care. 




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Patriot

Quote from: Wolfie on February 27 2015 12:08:00 PM MST
I love Obamacare, I don't have to worry about going bankrupt. That freed money I saved in case of emergency up. I bought a sports car a bike and more guns. I also don't have to pay for my kids healthcare while in college, saving me 100K right there.

Gay Marriage occurred as the GOP used it as a Wedge Issue to get elected and did nothing about it. When Republicans AFFIRM it as the law of that land, give credit to the GOP.

I have no problem with gun control that was under Clinton, whats wrong with background checks?

As for poor, ever drive through the south outside the interstate? I did, all I saw was a bunch of poor GOP counties loaded with poor whites and blacks.

Racism? Nobody does it better than the GOP. You know "my friend." Barack the Magic Negro and so on.

Socialism? Who created more socialist programs Bush or Obama? Hint the Republican.

Now you can disagree with me and thats fine, but what is your solution?

You are lost and need to be set straight.

Obamacare caused most people's premiums to skyrocket. I used to pay $125 a month for Group Health in Seattle. Very good plan. I tried to sign up on the Healthcare.gov site and the cheapest was $279. Ridiculous.

My girlfirend works at Olive Garden. They cancelled her plan when the ACA kicked in. No more insurance offered. Nothing. She tried to sign up for Obamacare, the website said she made too LITTLE, that she couldn't even buy insurance and she could only get Medicaid.

Gun control under Clinton was more than background checks. It limited magazines to 10 rounds, and banned certain rifles and labeled them as "assualt weapons."

And poor people in the south proves the GOP is bad? So the Dems are to blame for all the poor in the big cities, right? And the highest crime rates? Democrat controlled cities.

And the true racists? Democrats. They keep minorities down. Give them handouts and keep them in low income housing away from everyone. They tell them the big bad white man is holding them back so here is some free food and free rent just stay in this neighborhood away from us.


Pablo

Who the hell is paying for Obamacare????

Oh shit there is a mirror in the room.


Pablo

I am so tired of this shit about Republicans being racists! So ignorant really. When people bring that up, I know who the bigot in the room is. Pure prejudice.

sqlbullet

Yeah...My premiums have increased 140% between the 2014 increase and the 2015 increase and my deductible when from $1,000.00 to $15,000.00.  And I am told I won't see the "real" economic impact until '16 or '17.  That makes me pretty nervous.

The problem with background checks is they, to the best I can tell, haven't had any real impact on violent crime, but do carry a real cost.  They impact a fundamental individual right, and therefore any restriction should have a real, measurable impact on a legitimate governmental concern.  And, I would add, Clinton's gun control was FAR more restrictive than background checks.  That is the only part that didn't have a sunset clause.  If we still had the full package you wouldn't be able to buy certain guns because the look scary.

The rest of the items on your list are general wedge issues that BOTH parties leverage when it suits them.

I do take issue with the idea that there is Christian bashing on any sort of organized large scale.  Being told that you can no longer discriminate against non-christians/non-believers in the public arena is NOT christian bashing.

Rich10

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I do take issue with the idea that there is Christian bashing on any sort of organized large scale.  Being told that you can no longer discriminate against non-christians/non-believers in the public arena is NOT christian bashing.

No, I meant more so remarks like "clinging to their guns and religion".
Then there's the media ripping on Romney over his faith.  There are many examples.  I though democrats wanted to coexist?