Glock 19 Approved for US Marine MARSOC

4949shooter · February 18 2015 03:44:21 PM MST

A solid choice in 9mm:

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/02/17/glock-19-pistols-approved-for-marsoc-operators/23548847/

sqlbullet · February 18 2015 03:50:50 PM MST

Glock 19 is my go to hallway recommendation. If I have no other parameters but someone wants to know "what handgun to buy" I say Glock 19. Small enough to carry, big enough to be pleasant to shoot. 9mm ain't a 10mm, but it is not something I wanna get shot by either. Ammo is plentiful and cheap.

Not really my personal choice, but still and excellent choice.

4949shooter · February 18 2015 04:17:15 PM MST

Indeed an excellent choice.

If I were going to Iraq, say, to train the Iraqi police forces, I would not doubt bring one of ny G20's. But I would also bring a G19, for the ease of obtaining ammunition and carry. Plus the commonality of parts with the Glock samples already in country.

P33v3 · February 22 2015 05:50:55 PM MST

I'm a bit surprised it wasn't something like a G21 or G41. I've heard from a lot of soldiers returning that they were not fond of 9mm. I know some of the teams in JSOC are using the G21.

rw · February 22 2015 09:52:45 PM MST

Quote from: P33v3 on February 22 2015 05:50:55 PM MST
I'm a bit surprised it wasn't something like a G21 or G41. I've heard from a lot of soldiers returning that they were not fond of 9mm. I know some of the teams in JSOC are using the G21.

I am sorta surprised on that too... especially since they have 45acp ammo available since some teams went back to a 1911

Pumpkinheaver · March 01 2015 06:09:18 PM MST

The Glock 19 is my daily carry piece so I might be a little biased but the Glock 19 is an outstanding firearm and a fine choice for these fine men.

Buckeye 50 · March 02 2015 05:20:26 PM MST

I was never in the service but the few I have talked with that have seen combat in the last 20 years or so TO A MAN, said they would have given ANYTHING to have something stronger than a 9mm. And now, a Glock 19, 9mm - what does that have the Beretta doesn't??

Pat

rw · March 02 2015 05:59:16 PM MST

Quote from: Buckeye 50 on March 02 2015 05:20:26 PM MST
And now, a Glock 19, 9mm - what does that have the Beretta doesn't??

Pat

Reliability and will fire virtually anything put in it.
I know many who absolutely hated their issued m9's, they all said the guns were horrible in dirty environments.

sqlbullet · March 03 2015 09:02:25 AM MST

The M9 is a heavy big gun. The Glock 19 is a light small one.

The only thing the Beretta has over the Glock, in my opinion is second strike capability. And I have never seen a reputable defensive pistol class that taught second strike as a way to deal with a malfunction.

Don't get me wrong. I like Beretta's. I used to have one and plan to buy one again at some point. But, if I had to pick between a Beretta and a Glock 19 for general use, Glock 19 every time.

my_old_glock · March 03 2015 10:56:56 AM MST

Quote from: sqlbullet on March 03 2015 09:02:25 AM MST
The M9 is a heavy big gun. The Glock 19 is a light small one.

The only thing the Beretta has over the Glock, in my opinion is second strike capability. And I have never seen a reputable defensive pistol class that taught second strike as a way to deal with a malfunction.

Don't get me wrong. I like Beretta's. I used to have one and plan to buy one again at some point. But, if I had to pick between a Beretta and a Glock 19 for general use, Glock 19 every time.

The Beretta also has a larger opening to clear jams. The entire top of the slide is open. The G19 only has a small ejection port.

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sqlbullet · March 03 2015 04:31:03 PM MST

Most of that open area is over the barrel, not the action. And if you just measure action access, the Glock is not meaningfully behind since it's "small" ejection port encompasses the entire top of the slide over the action.

But OK. I will give you that the access to the action is better. Glock 19 is still a small light service sized pistol.

4949shooter · March 03 2015 07:41:09 PM MST

I am a Beretta fan.

But don't forget the open area inherent to the Beretta design lets in sand and dust. Perhaps not the best thing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Though, I read earlier that the biggest problem with the Beretta's is the cheap (non-Beretta) magazines the military procured for them.

Buckeye 50 · March 04 2015 07:29:43 PM MST

What I guess I meant to say was they were both 9mm's and the people I talked to all wanted something stronger than the 9, regardless of platform. So why swap a 9 for a 9 if that's the case?

Pat

4949shooter · March 05 2015 02:10:01 PM MST

Yes true. I heard they were looking at 40 and 45. Who knows why it was chosen to stay with 9mm.

chucky2 · March 05 2015 04:31:50 PM MST

What could they get that is stronger than 9mm FMJ though? Ignoring needing to defeat body armor and shoot through barriers, would not the largest diameter bullet be the best choice in FMJ? I realize the .45 doesn't have the 'reach out and touch' capabilities of the .40, but realistically, how many long distance - for pistols - shots are taken where that would really matter?