Federal judge rules Obama executive amnesty unlawful

Patriot · February 17 2015 06:31:03 AM MST

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I knew this would happen. Obama overstepped his authority. He even said it multiple times on video that he couldn't do it. No judge will side with him. The next step is the 5th Circuit court. That court is made up of Bush/ Reagan appointees. Once it gets to SCOTUS, they will end it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/judge-andrew-s-hanen-halts-obama-amnesty/

Wolfie · February 17 2015 09:00:48 AM MST

The President also knew this would happen. Its baked in the cake. Illegal enforcement is real easy. You do the best with what resources you have. Judges will determine that there are not enough resources to accomplish the mission. That means 2 things, either Obama can prioritize deportations or the Congress needs to fund for the deportation of 10 million.

Thats the argument going into 2016 over illegals. The GOP refuses to do its job.

For example, 10 cops are working a precinct. There are 15 calls, 10 for felonies in progress and 5 for misdemeanors, who do you dispatch the cops to?

Same with illegals, what do you do? Go after felons or the guy putting up a roof?

Plus there is case law on Obamas side as Reagan and Bush I did the same.

sqlbullet · February 17 2015 09:13:55 AM MST

The whole thing is just a mess. Two of my daughters good friends from high school are un-papered. They were brought here with their families when they were less than a year old, and have been here ever since. They know nothing of their home countries and cultures. Both come from families that are very hard working, otherwise law abiding people.

I don't agree with the president on a lot of things, but this is one where I did. Our nation became great because of immigrants. We have lost something since we made the barrier to citizenship so costly. We need to change that.

Rich10 · February 17 2015 10:27:52 AM MST

Quote from: Wolfie on February 17 2015 09:00:48 AM MST
The President also knew this would happen. Its baked in the cake. Illegal enforcement is real easy. You do the best with what resources you have. Judges will determine that there are not enough resources to accomplish the mission. That means 2 things, either Obama can prioritize deportations or the Congress needs to fund for the deportation of 10 million.

Thats the argument going into 2016 over illegals. The GOP refuses to do its job.

For example, 10 cops are working a precinct. There are 15 calls, 10 for felonies in progress and 5 for misdemeanors, who do you dispatch the cops to?

Same with illegals, what do you do? Go after felons or the guy putting up a roof?

Plus there is case law on Obamas side as Reagan and Bush I did the same.

Of course, even while doing illegal acts, Obama is ok. They can be rationalized, rather fully supported, by followers.

Our laws don't really matter.

Rich10 · February 17 2015 10:31:52 AM MST

Quote from: sqlbullet on February 17 2015 09:13:55 AM MST
We have lost something since we made the barrier to citizenship so costly. We need to change that.

Can you explain what you mean? What is your evidence?

redbaron007 · February 17 2015 11:46:09 AM MST

For many years....There have been limits and prohibited people for many many years not allowed to enter the country. We have a process now, it should be used instead of sidestepped....through EOs or EMs.

Wolfie · February 17 2015 12:05:03 PM MST

OK Obama is wrong and is a outlaw, time to impeach him.

Now onto the 12 million illegals, whats the GOP plan to remove them?

They have NO plan as businesses WANT the cheap labor, even wonder why states like Texas do not use E Verify and give illegals FREE college? Of course not, when the REPUBLICANS fail to uphold the law, the GOP voter looks the other way.

And its not only about illegals, the same goes for budgets, gay marriage and foreign policy.

The GOP failed on all counts.

10mmfan · February 17 2015 12:06:20 PM MST

Honestly this is one thing I agree with Australia on, if you illegally enter the country you are ineligible to become a citizen. If you enter legally you are uneligible for welfare but your children are.

Wolfie · February 17 2015 12:10:29 PM MST

They need to cut a deal so that those that entered illegally can be permanent citizens that CANNOT vote.

The kids if they serve in the military or get a 4 year degree should be made citizens that can vote.

While we get rid of the criminals.

Is that so tough?

redbaron007 · February 17 2015 12:15:16 PM MST

Quote from: Wolfie on February 17 2015 12:10:29 PM MST
They need to cut a deal so that those that entered illegally can be permanent citizens that CANNOT vote.

The kids if they serve in the military or get a 4 year degree should be made citizens that can vote.

While we get rid of the criminals.

Is that so tough?

The crux of the matter is right there in bold.......making a deal. When there are two opposing views and each want their own way....it's hard to compromise to make a deal. Both parties want them in the US.....after that.....it becomes a stalemate. The Dems won't give up on allowing them to vote and collect benefits.

Wolfie · February 17 2015 12:29:29 PM MST

Baron, we know what the Democrats want, what do the Republicans want?

redbaron007 · February 17 2015 12:35:23 PM MST

Quote from: Wolfie on February 17 2015 12:29:29 PM MST
Baron, we know what the Democrats want, what do the Republicans want?

They want them hear to work.

I have spoken to State and Federal reps about this.....it is hard to get past that.....they don't want them to gain voting rights and full access to benefits immediately....hence, with that, they are more likely to vote en masse for Dems. Which gets back to the compromise issue.

sqlbullet · February 17 2015 02:45:12 PM MST

Which is where the republicans are being stupid.

Here we have a huge group of folks, mostly Catholic, with very conservative values. Basically cookie cutter made for the republican base, except they aren't white. So the republicans of course work really hard at alienating them.

redbaron007 · February 17 2015 03:17:21 PM MST

Quote from: sqlbullet on February 17 2015 02:45:12 PM MST
Which is where the republicans are being stupid.

Here we have a huge group of folks, mostly Catholic, with very conservative values. Basically cookie cutter made for the republican base, except they aren't white. So the republicans of course work really hard at alienating them.

Actually, they trend to vote Democratic, even with the attributes you listed above.....hence, the problem for the Repubs and subsequent conservative base. If this trend wasn't there, they would gladly make them model US citizens in a heart beat.

Wolfie · February 17 2015 04:01:04 PM MST

sqlbullet, spot on.

Every race at one time were Democrats. The Irish in NY were treated WORSE than blacks, Germans were discriminated against. The GOP passed laws in the 1920's keeping Italians and Jews out.

The GOP has no margin or error in the future, every southern state has a student body were whites are a minority.

These groups will perceive the GOP as wanting their labor while considering them second class citizens. I do not see how their children will warm to the GOP.

btw: In the northeast, lots of illegals, but there is a huge block of them from Europe. People who visit and overstay their Visas.