More gun control ideas from CA (proposed)

[joshuamalezi]

How about this stinker of a bill? This, if made into a law, would let someone tell a gov't agency they think you're crazy and or dangerous. They could then come and take all of your guns and you would have to have a hearing to convince them to give your guns back. And you could not buy any guns until that hearing. I know this will likely never pass, but they keep throwing this crap at the wall hoping one will stick.

http://www.guns.com/2015/01/26/capps-introduces-gun-violence-restraining-order-bill-to-congress/

[The_Shadow]

Straight out of the communist playbooks..."useful idiots"

Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......

Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.

Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?

All eight rules are currently in play


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare? Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty ? Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt ? Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control? Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare ? Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education ? Take control of what people read and listen to ? take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion ? Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools

Class Warfare ? Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."  The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

If  people  can read this and still say everything is just fine? they are ?useful idiots.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

[joshuamalezi]

I like the Rules For Radicals quote, Shadow. It's crazy that politicians have got as far as they have with those principles in our country.

[Wolfie]

Hillary was a solid Republican and attended the 1968 RNC.

When she saw all the racists she switched parties.

[gandog56]

Straight out of the communist playbooks..."useful idiots"

Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......

Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.

Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?

All eight rules are currently in play


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare? Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty ? Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt ? Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control? Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare ? Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education ? Take control of what people read and listen to ? take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion ? Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools

Class Warfare ? Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."  The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

If  people  can read this and still say everything is just fine? they are ?useful idiots.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

The one I have the most trouble with is #6. No it is NOT OK that little Johnny has two fathers.

[pacapcop]

I expect nothing less out of the land of "FRUIT AND NUT's". Hopefully it dies.

[joshuamalezi]

Wolfie, there's racists on both sides of the isle.
Shadow, There's nothing wrong with homosexuals, but it's been over-politicized and forced on people. The gov't needs to stay out of peoples bedrooms. (and gun safes)

It's stupid that our elected law makers waste time proposing these DOA bills. They just feel they have to keep coming up with new laws and regs to justify their existence.

[Pablo]

Hillary was a solid Republican and attended the 1968 RNC.

When she saw all the racists she switched parties.

And Democrats founded the KKK.

Yes Hillary was born in a Republican family, but her campaign bio doesn't even put her switch that abruptly and no mention of actual live racists at that evil Republican party convention. 

Let's put it this way, she nor her family were never true conservatives, then she found gun control.

[sqlbullet]

The one I have the most trouble with is #6. No it is NOT OK that little Johnny has two fathers.

I think you forgot a word.

It is not ok with you that little Johnny has two fathers.

But Johnny's father's sex lives aren't our business.

[The_Shadow]

joshuamalezi, writes

Shadow, There's nothing wrong with homosexuals, but it's been over-politicized and forced on people. The gov't needs to stay out of peoples bedrooms. (and gun safes)

I think you confused pacapcop's post

I expect nothing less out of the land of "FRUIT AND NUT's". Hopefully it dies.

As being mine post...

I have to agree

The gov't needs to stay out of peoples bedrooms. (and gun safes)

with the over reaching Greedy Government Gone Wild for power and control at the expense of our freedoms.

[pacapcop]

Fruity as in Coo Coo For Coco Puffs, essentric types. Nuts as in plain freakin crazy. Nothing in regards to Homo activity. Thats been around a long time before now.

[Wolfie]

The KKK was formed by Dixiecrats, todays southern GOP.

Now I am pro gun and still 100% against the NY Safe Act. But NY is now #3 in gun deaths behind Massachusetts, those Gun Laws that Republican Mitt Romney passed and Hawaii which is nearly impossible to get a gun. 5 deaths per 100,000 the worst states, all GOP states at a whopping 19 deaths per 100,000

If CA is looking at the facts they very well may pass more gun laws. After all Reagan passed some pretty strict ones, but that was to keep guns away from blacks so he gets a pass for that.

http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/voteup/2015/01/29/ny-ranked-third-lowest-in-gun-deaths/

[ShadeTreeVTX]

The NY 5 per 100,000 is with out NYCity factored in. I lived in WNY out side of Buffalo in Lancaster NY and in the city of Buffalo the averaged almost 1-2 killing a day NYC is triple that a day - its so common there no one pays attention to it - I lived there from 69 to 85 in Erie County and I had a CCW .
We figured if they stayed in the cjty and killed there own, we didn't care.

Doug 

[Wolfie]

The story said it was statewide.

[Pablo]

They include suicide in that rate.