Glock 20, Kimber Stainless Target II, and S&W 1006

Started by Sean Thornton, November 27 2014 10:57:16 AM MST

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Sean Thornton

I took all three of my 10mm semi autos out for a little comparison. I had 100 rounds of 10mm for each, 180XTP 10.4 grains of Blue Dot WW primers all in a DT nickeled case new virgin brass.

Glock 20: Even loaded with a 15 round magazine it did not seem as heavy as the other 2 semi autos. Accuracy at 10 yards was right at 3 inches off hand with a couple of flyers due to me not being focused enough. Recoil was very manageable and seemed to not be as sharp as the other 2. One of the downside of the Glock is its "fatness" so to speak. While it presented no real problems it was not a 1911. This was my first 10mm a Gen 3 that I have had over 10 years with several thousands of rounds through it. No problems firing or feeding or ejecting. The Glock is factory stock without any changes. Brass was thrown about 15 feet.

Kimber Stainless Target II: As far as grip this has the best grip or feel of any of the 3. I guess that may be because I am partial to a 1911. I just purchased this a month ago, however I have already fired 400 rounds through it before this outing. At first the sights were off a little to the left but a simple adjustment of the sights solved that problem. I shot the Kimber a little better than the other 2. I think mainly because of the more comfortable grip that I am used to as well as a trigger pull I am more accustom to. Group size was about the same as the Glock maybe a little smaller but no flyers. All round functioned perfectly. The one downside of the Kimber is that it throws the fired brass over 30 feet. It makes it challenging to set up my canvas tarps to catch the brass. Again shooting was off hand at 10 yards using the same load as the Glock. The 1911 Kimber is a little heavier than the Glock and also holds less in the mag at 8 rounds. It is a bummer that the Kimber only comes with 1 mag. You would think for the price you should get at least 2 mags. I purchased 3 other mags.

S&W 1006: I just picked this up Monday. I have been on the hunt for a long time for a reasonable priced 1006. I ended up paying right at $650 after adding on the shipping so I felt pretty good about the final price. Another individual wanted to sell me his for $1100. He said he only shot it a few times but it was LNIB he said but he did not have the box, papers and the pistol did not look LNIB. Oh well to the shooting. Off hand shooting was not as good as the Kimber or the Glock. The single action trigger pull was a little different and I had not shot it but 50 rounds before this. I only tried the double action trigger a couple of times, it was heavy but manageable. Accuracy was about 4 inches at 10 yards with an occasional flyer due to me and the trigger pull. The grip on the 1006 is the most awkward of the 3 pistols. The 1006 seemed to be top heavy but that seemed to work in managing recoil. This was the heaviest of the 3 pistols. the Smith functioned perfectly for a pistol made in 1990. I only have one mag for it so it was a lot of loading mags. I hope to purchase another 3 mags. I am glad I have the 1006 and will keep it and shoot it, it is my least favorite of the 3. On a positive side it only throw the brass about 10 feet or so. I look forward to shooting this more.

With having 3 of the 10mm I am not sure if a fourth one will follow me home. I am going to a gun show Saturday so who knows.

Osageid

They do tend to multiply in stable.  I wouldn't mind picking up an EAA witness

The_Shadow

Sean, was the 1006 the fixed sights or target adjustable?
Yes the S&W trigger needs some time to adjust to with the takeup, reset.  I realy wish S&W would have done a better job with the trigger group.
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Sean Thornton

Quote from: The_Shadow on November 27 2014 07:34:05 PM MST
Sean, was the 1006 the fixed sights or target adjustable?
Yes the S&W trigger needs some time to adjust to with the takeup, reset.  I realy wish S&W would have done a better job with the trigger group.
It has the adjustable sight. Serial number TEV 09XX It came with one magazine with the yellow follower.

Dave84

Quote from: Osageid on November 27 2014 05:09:58 PM MST
They do tend to multiply in stable.  I wouldn't mind picking up an EAA witness

I highly recommend them. I have the full size steel frame and the Elite Match. Both are great. I  highly recommend the Elite Match for sure.

10mm-Admirer

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I have a G20SF and a Kimber STII.  Your comments are my experience as well.

I love the Kimber.  It is very accurate and came with a very nice trigger.  I can't seem to shoot it poorly.  It shoots anything I feed it, but I don't feed it the higher impulse hotter stuff very often. The Kimber is my favorite 10mm but I would depend on the Glock for hunting or shooting hotter ammo.

I keep eyeing an EAA Witness...
Late to 10mm but loving it!

Sean Thornton

I love the Kimber Stainless Target II but it throws the brass a long way. So now my next project is to come up with a "brass catcher" for it. I envision 2 seven foot poles with a right angle at the top with a 2 foot extension. The seven foot poles spaced 4 or 5  feet apart and then cover with one of my old mosquito nets and a canvas on the ground for the brass to fall on. However that was just my first thought. What have some of the rest of you done?   

Buckeye 50

For those who might know, I don't, how would the Kimber compare to a Dan Wesson Razorback (if you could get one)?  I mean all aspects, including price and performance.

Pat
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Wolfie

Have a Kimber Eclipse and its real nice, but my Dan Wesson is more jewel like.