UK legal 10mm Carbine Project

Percy1911 · November 12 2014 06:33:22 AM MST

Hi,

as described in my introduction, I am attempting a carbine that will be UK legal, ie, 300mm minimum barrel length, 600mm minimum overall length.

It will be based on an SMLE action with shortened bolt, recessed into the 12-14" barrel to fully support the case as much as possible, on an aluminium (sorry, aluminum) stock, using a pistol grip housing a Glock 20 15rnd mag.......Hopefully!!

I will post pics and updates over the coming weeks for those who might be interested.

Please feel free to ask questions or offer advice. I used to shoot 10mm many moons ago but have never reloaded for it (I reload for all my other calibres, .45ACP, 7mm08, 308, .221) but will be interested in some recipes for sure...

Guy

The_Shadow · November 12 2014 07:18:11 AM MST

So Guy, this is going to be a Bolt action based on this Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle ( S.M.L.E.) as a modified action.

Percy1911 · November 12 2014 07:39:06 AM MST

Yes, that's the one. The receiver is counter bored so the chamber ends up a couple of inches rearward. The bolt is shortened to match.

I will post a pic of the receiver in a .45ACP I did earlier this year.

I will also be changing the sear and trigger to allow me to have the trigger forward of the pistol grip / magazine, a little bit like the XP100.

Pinsnscrews · November 12 2014 10:04:50 AM MST

Are you going to use a 1911 style trigger mechanism?

BTW, no need to correct the Queen's English to American English ;-) Some of us are used to Boots, Bonnets, Tyres, saloons, Coupes, Sedans, aluminium, bollox etc ${$default_cheesy_smiley}$

Percy1911 · November 12 2014 04:35:57 PM MST

A mix between a 1911 and an XP100...it's still in development! It will pass either side of the magazine well and tip the sear from a different angle than the SMLE. Nothing a brain, trial & error and a small whisky can't solve.
Pictures attached of the barrel and shortened bolt in my .45ACP.

I shall continue to use Her Majesty's English... ${$default_grin_smiley}$

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Desolo · November 16 2014 02:50:05 PM MST

This is really neat! Ill be keeping an eye on this... ${$default_cool_smiley}$ essentially your making a BULLPUP ENFIELD PISTOL! That is in 10mm.... thats just awesome.

AndyBir · December 22 2014 07:52:36 AM MST

Hi Guy,I have a .45 acp Enfield that runs on Glock mags and this works very well. I also have a Marlin in 10mm mag that Richard Wilson made for me. He converted a S&W 610 to 10 mag back in the mid 90`s but I had to hand that in during the pistol ban.

The_Shadow · December 22 2014 08:12:49 AM MST

AndyBir, is this the Richard Wilson you speak of?
http://wilsoncustomguns.com/history.html

Sorry you guys had to loose such fine guns to an overbearing government regulations...

Would like to hear more of the Marlin gun chambered in 10mm Magnum... ${$default_cool_smiley}$

AndyBir · December 29 2014 10:27:27 AM MST

Hi , This is the same Richard Wilson that made my Marlin. With the .357 case head being roughly the same size as 10 mm mag/10 auto/.40 S&W the mag tube is the right size and I don`t think there is much of a problem with the extractor. With the right loads it will shoot 155 grn bullets at nearly 2000 fps.

The_Shadow · December 29 2014 05:25:13 PM MST

Thanks Andy for updating the post. ${$default_cool_smiley}$

Percy1911 · June 14 2016 02:34:08 PM MDT

Update......

Sorry this seem to have halted. Lots going on and no time to work on the carbine.
Now getting back into it but making done changes.
It is still a SMLE action but now with a modified 1911 style lower so that I can use Calibre specific magazines such as 10mm, 40S&W & 22TCM (yes, that's right, I am giving this fun little round a go in the carbine too).
Let's hope I make a bit more progress this summer!!!!