Underwood 140gr Xtreme (Lehigh) Penetrator and 140gr Controlled Fracturing HP

[Intercooler]

With what that 140gr Xtreme does... good enough for woods?

[The_Shadow]

  As usual with just about all Underwood it meets or exceeds the rating. I'm betting these 140's are the same load/powder for both.

Underwood 140gr C.F. HP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1602, 1571, 1549, 1570. Average = 1573 FPS/ 769 LBS

Underwood 140gr Xtreme P
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1586, 1591, 1575. Average = 1584 FPS/ 780 LBS

Underwood 180gr XTP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1307, 1308, 1322. Average = 1312.33 FPS/ 688 LBS

That some very interesting numbers, you sending any for a look-n-see?  I know they were special & expensive...

[Intercooler]

Absolutely! Power Pistol? Compressed?

[The_Shadow]

Maybe not!  Will have to droop it pants to find out if its got a PP!    LOL   

[Intercooler]

I'm sending all the latest and greatest Monday. You should have it by Wednesday to see what's there.

[Quick 2]

Guess I'm just to old to go for the latest maybe greatest. I am lucky that I live about 20 miles from GT Distributors I get Gold Dots at cop prices. A box of 50 is $29 + tax. These do look nasty but many BGs has lost to the Gold Dot. To me proven means a lot. I am 53 this month worn out and I can still out run any gel block. Real life has a way of proving many things that look good in a lab and on paper to be not so great. ANYBODY that sees any shootings with this ammo needs to post the results. This concept is not new Agulia had a similar round in the early 90s but they were aluminum not copper light and very fast. They were not on the market long. I guess just like everything else time will prove if this is the magic bullet everyone wants. Velocities looked great but from Underwood that was to be expected. In my Witness full size I went with the 155gr XTP  another bullet that has stood the test of time and of course from Underwood Ammo.

[mt10mm]

Would like to see a 200gr at 1200fps

[The_Shadow]

Would like to see a 200gr at 1200fps

MT10mm are you referring to one of these 100% copper bullets like the 40gr C.F. HP? In a 200gr.
That would be very hard to do as the copper being lighter would take up too much room inside the casing and not enough room for enough powder to make it work at proper pressures.

[Dave84]

Here's a video where someone tested XP in .380. Would be a great woods load in 10mm I would think.

[mt10mm]

Would like to see a 200gr at 1200fps

MT10mm are you referring to one of these 100% copper bullets like the 40gr C.F. HP? In a 200gr.
That would be very hard to do as the copper being lighter would take up too much room inside the casing and not enough room for enough powder to make it work at proper pressures.

I was, what about a 180gr?

[Intercooler]

The Shadow's pull-down will give us an idea. If it isn't too long and much like a FMJ, one with more weight like a 180gr might still be able to hit 1200 FPS.

[Pinsnscrews]

They make a 240gr XP for the .44mag, it would be no problem for them to make a 200gr+ for the 10mm. It may need to sit deeper in the case, but I still strongly feel that 1100fps is possible.

Something we tend to forget, CA has been trying to get ALL lead based ammo banned. They will have a harder time with Pistol ammo, and are not all that far from a total ban on Lead Rifle rounds. They are halfway there with the ban on Lead for Hunting in certain areas. Right, Wrong, or Indifferent, having an alternative source of effective ammo is a solid idea. One of the Gun magazines from the 70's gave instructions of casting Zinc for use in Police firearms. Cutting Edge with their Copper and Brass machined projectiles were thought to just be gimmicks, but have proven not only for Long Range Accuracy, but effectiveness as well. I see no reason why the LeHigh Defense ammo can't be more than just a gimmick, but an effective ammo if you're in an area where PETA and the EPA have tried putting a strangle hold on our sporting lifestyles.

Besides, LeHigh Defense will be offering their XP components for Reloaders to load up how they see fit!

[halfglocked]

. Have there been any updates on the xtreme penatrators?

[Pinsnscrews]

They have not released the .401 size Extreme Penetrators yet. At least their site does not reflect it yet.

[halfglocked]

Yehaw, I really wanted to see how these Lehigh loads work and how the "lite" 140.extreme penatrator works , hopefully better than the defunct extreme ammo fang face, and freedom rounds.