Technology Aims to Track Police Firearms

Started by The_Shadow, October 30 2014 01:02:57 PM MDT

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The_Shadow

The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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Southeast, LoUiSiAna

10mmfan

If it could be done in real time the military application could be a game changer.

EdMc

Not sure I see the purpose of this device. Not enough description of the technology to understand how it contacts 'the cloud' etc, to give locations and information.

The_Shadow

It is something that could be a good thing or could or bad...understanding the technology and what it does is what I'd be interested in.  It would seem it is a GPS based unit, It may actually interface with the persons radio (via Bluetooth?) to transmit its data.  If I recall the "Tasers" have a sort of information built into their modules? (not yet that sophisticated)

Based on the data points mentioned, it would send data the the weapon is deployed, fired, when and what direction it was fired.  Don't know if it has GPS tracking elevation markers?  The signals are sent to alert the commanders of situation in progress.  The data is to be stored for forensics study, documentation, evidence! (manipulated?/tainted?/lost?).  As these electronics get smaller and smarter we may see even more data points exploited with this kind of technology!  :o
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
NRA Life Member
Southeast, LoUiSiAna

4949shooter

It seems excessive to me. But I guess this is what the world is coming to with technology.

harrygunner

#5
I'm willing to believe the gyroscopes can determine if the weapon went from vertical (holstered) to horizontal (drawn) and that the accelerometers can detect the weapon being fired.

IMHO, everything else is BS. Gyroscopes give rates of change in orientation. Rates have error bars and without real time continuous measurements of orientation and optimal estimation processing, absolute orientation won't happen. And the way the device is placed in the grip minimizes accuracy of left/right orientation.

Throw in errors in GPS positioning and orientation numbers will be of limited value. In simple scenarios, it could help separate incoming fire from outgoing fire.

But, the biggest question is what problem does it solve? To have any hope of interpreting the data, you'll have to trust the testimony of the officer. To me, this technology is about not trusting the officer.

I mainly see this device as a way to reduce officer morale and for attorneys to discredit honest cops.

I suspect departments won't buy it. But, if they do, expect a push to have it in your weapon.

EdMc

Excessive is the problem. Saw where some were asking for body cameras for law enforcement.......I'd support the idea for politicians.

sqlbullet

Heres the thing on body camera's.  In locales where they have been implemented citizen complaints against officers have dropped by 90% significant amount (I can't quickly locate the citation).

Regardless of whether the camera's are changing the officers behaviors or if the citizens just don't bring frivolous complaints is moot.  They are making a huge positive difference in policing.


Wolfie

No problem with police with cameras.

If a person makes a false complaint however, arrest them.


sqlbullet

Quote from: Wolfie on November 03 2014 03:47:53 PM MST
No problem with police with cameras.

If a person makes a false complaint however, arrest them.

I would think you would need to prove malice on the part of the accuser.  Perceptions are funny things.

Raggedyman

If you have nothing to hide....


Does that sound familiar mister policeman?  ;D

EdMc

Quote from: sqlbullet on November 03 2014 08:22:56 AM MST
Heres the thing on body camera's.  In locales where they have been implemented citizen complaints against officers have dropped by 90% significant amount (I can't quickly locate the citation).

Regardless of whether the camera's are changing the officers behaviors or if the citizens just don't bring frivolous complaints is moot.  They are making a huge positive difference in policing.


I'd like to read the article if you run across it again. I can see the positives in some situations but maybe not so much in others.

4949shooter

Quote from: Raggedyman on November 07 2014 10:09:35 AM MST
If you have nothing to hide....


Does that sound familiar mister policeman?  ;D

Contrary to popular belief, most police officers welcome the use of cameras. If not at first, the officers learn to like them once they find out that cameras get them out of a whole lot more trouble than they get them into. We don't have body cameras yet, but we have had dash mounted cameras since 2000. These cameras have dispelled multitudes of false complaints / allegations made against our members.

The body cams would be no different.

Raggedyman


Wolfie

Filing a false police report is a crime, if the citizen makes a false report they should be arrested.