Blackhawks

[sqlbullet]

Hardcore collectors may be interested in these:

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=20769413

Looks like an awesome set, but I don't do safe queens, which these definitely are given the price.

[BCDWYO]

those look like some beauties...but I'm with you, as much as I love the 10mm, not sure I need one in SA revolver format.  Trying to imagine where the market there might be...?   Cowboy action guys aren't going to take to a "new fangled" caliber with a mm after it!...maybe hunters?  Hard to beat the S&W 610 for a 10 mm revolver.

[sqlbullet]

Single action doesn't put me off much.  But the price does.  Who buys a revolver and doesn't even rotate the cylinder?  No, I will keep looking for a convertible in the $400 range, and someday I will find it.

[alwaysshootin]

It would take both hands, to count, the different Blackhawks, I've owned over the years. I can say with confidence, the only one I will purchase in the future, will be one that is chambered in 10MM. I can also assure you it won't cost $2000!

[Revolver-time]

I have a 610 and love it.  It is nice to use 40S&W in the same gun.  But, I wonder if and how much it would cost to have a 357 Blackhawk rechamberd for 10 mm/40 ?

[sqlbullet]

By the time you pay for the gun, a bunch more than you can get them for on Gunbroker.

Of course, depending on the gunsmith you may have a much nicer gun too.

[DM1906]

I have one of these in 38-40/10mm.  Bought it recently for a LOT less than that pair, at a not-so-safe-queen price.  It was new, never fired, with only one turned cylinder.  A genuine pleasure to shoot, although that first round was hard to pull (I almost didn't, because you can't go back).  The .40/.32 pair would be nice, but not at 2 grand.  The 38-40 is a real performer, with near .44M power.  Original 38-40 loads are rather anemic, barely passing .40 S&W velocities.  Newer brass designs, smokeless powders, and the Blackhawk platform makes for a real work of powerful art.  10mm performance is good, gaining 100-200 FPS (depending on the bullet and powder selected) over a G20/5.2" bbl. with the same loads.  If you like Ruger S/A's, I highly recommend getting your hands on one of these, in any condition.

[sqlbullet]

Do you have any issues with the heavy 38/40 loads backing out and tying up the cylinder?  I have read of those issues with other heavy loads in bottle neck cases in revolvers.

[DM1906]

Do you have any issues with the heavy 38/40 loads backing out and tying up the cylinder?  I have read of those issues with other heavy loads in bottle neck cases in revolvers.

I have, but only with faster powders.  A heavy load of Unique will lock the cylinder.  I don't see but the slightest hint of it with 2400, and none with slower.  The best performance, so far, is with 2400.  I'd like to give 296 a shot, but I can't get enough case fill, yet.  I may have to use COW or a biscuit.  AA9 and R7 are next on the list.  Most of the high(er) power rounds I load are made from .44M cases, which are considerably thicker than Starline 38-40.  I have to turn the necks a bit, but they work well.  I have a box of very early Remington primed cases, but won't use them for more than original power levels.  Very soft brass, with a hollow web.  Late brass (Starline) is much more durable, and has a solid web.

I had a greater problem early on with 10mm rounds.  The cases would stretch.  The chamber depth is .995", and the longest stretch was out to 1.002" .  The revolver was 22 years old when I got it, never fired.  A couple of the chambers developed a little surface etching, so they would grab the case mouth.  I actually separated a few cases before figuring out that one.  No gas leakage, but the cases would cut clean right behind the bullet base (when seated).  Looked like they were cut with a tubing cutter.  No overpressure signs with them.  At first, I thought I had overused the brass, but it was stretching new brass as well.  After a good chamber polish and silicone impregnating, and they fall out now, at original length.

[sqlbullet]

That is interesting with the 10mm brass.  I have read about guys having issues like that before, but never thought about the impact of a rough chamber. 

It boggles the mind when you really think about the pressures involved in internal ballistics.

[DM1906]

Yeah.  It wasn't one I've seen before.  I backed off and loaded some very light rounds.  Even at 9.5 gr. BD under a 180 gr. plated FP (Berry's), the case was stretching, and the separation line was just beginning to show.  I've put several hundred rounds through it since, and no problems.  Light target loads to full house nukes, no problem.  Next up:  Circlip adapters for .40S&W.  I absolutely love versatility.

[Revolver-time]

By the time you pay for the gun, a bunch more than you can get them for on Gunbroker.

Of course, depending on the gunsmith you may have a much nicer gun too.

I have the gun.  A stainless, 6.5" barrel, 357.

[sqlbullet]

I have the gun.  A stainless, 6.5" barrel, 357.

I haven't had it quoted, but I would be surprised if it was less than $500 for the conversion.  I would start with a dialog with Bowen Classic Arms about what you wanted.

[505Gibbs]

I was able to pick up a gently used 10mm/38-40 with only the 10mm showing a turn line for $550 about a year and a half ago. The 32 cal version should be in the same cost range. The seller obviously only has a 'small' ego!!

[Smee78]

I really cant believe Ruger has not come out with a 10mm/40S&W Blackhawk set for the regular market (SS 4 5/8 or 5 1/2 barrel for me). I know they had a Ruger 40 Vaquero (I saw one once) but you think a regular production gun in the two cals with adj sights would be a great seller.