Compact Steel Witness - Third Time's a Charm

[Geeman]

Well, it might be a solution to the feeding issue I discussed before.

Last time out I had feeding issues, and a handload of 180g Hornady Action Pistol driven by 9.5g of Power Pistol gave the pistol fits when loaded to 1.260".  I had some trouble with the other loadings as well running a stock (red follower) magazine. 

I shortened the OAL to 1.250 with the rest of the loading remaining unchanged.   I removed the mag spring, red follower, and base on the other end of the spring, and I replaced the whole thing with the guts of a K10 magazine (Base, spring, & follower) and hit the range.  I ran 70 rounds and the compact ran without an issue, magazine after magazine.

I also had 150g Nosler Sporting Pistol driven by 10.5g of 800X (1.250"), and I had 1 FTF out of 30 rounds.  I had the 15 rounds of the prior 150g Nosler/10.7g Longshot load that ran with no issue.  I also had 15 135g Nosler rounds with 11.5g of Power Pistol, and I just threw them together and never measured OAL.  I had 2 FTF in the same magazine, so its not a 100% thing there.

I'm feeling comfortable this pistol will work out, but I need to figure out the best way (cheapest) to assemble a few magazines with the springs/followers from the K10, or else find an aftermarket solution to accomplish something similar.  Swapping the mag guts changes a 12 round magazine to an 11 round, but I usually fill to only ten, so no biggie.  I just hate to thing of buying double the number of magazines to make them work!

Anyway, MUCH better.


Greg

[Intercooler]

Grams follower try?

[DenStinett]

Not sure if you are familiar with the "All Tanfoglio And Witness Forum"
http://tz75man.forumco.com/default.asp
RodSlinger (one of the Witness Gurus over there) has a "FIX" for the older 10mm Mags with older Followers

http://tz75man.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=170

Maybe that'll help

[Dave84]

Can you put the 14 rd k10's into the gun and get them to work as your reloads? If so you only need one flush fitting mag.

[pacapcop]

I feel for ya bro. Don't letter suck you  you in. 

[Geeman]

Grams follower try?

This was my first time out since I really had issues, and I wanted to know if it was a magazine issue, of gun issue.  I didn't spend a nickle yet, just played around with what I had to begin to sort it out.  Looking at the red follower, spring setup, I can see why there are issues. 

I haven't tried Grams yet. 

Greg

[Intercooler]

You could possibly get some of the black followers from EAA as a try as well. They have a different one that isn't a K10.

[Geeman]

I feel for ya bro. Don't letter suck you  you in. 

That compact Witness shoots 10mm so sweetly with a 22 lb spring.  The K10 magazine innards seemed to get me where I needed to be.  I had one issue in 115 rounds before I tried the 135 Nolsers.  I was having more fun than the frustration I was having last time. 

I think this is going to work!

Greg

[pacapcop]

That must be one heck of a time pulling that slide with a 24lb spring. Be careful with nuke rounds and inspect always.

[Geeman]

That must be one heck of a time pulling that slide with a 24lb spring. Be careful with nuke rounds and inspect always.

I made a boo-boo.   It is the heaviest Wolff send in their calibration kit, which is a 22# spring.  I corrected the prior post.

Racking the slide is stiff.  Its tougher than a Glock with a 24# spring. 

Greg

[Geeman]

Can you put the 14 rd k10's into the gun and get them to work as your reloads? If so you only need one flush fitting mag.

I believe so.  I know it fits, but haven't tried running a mag full through the pistol yet.  Actually, thanks for bringing this up.  I think that one magazine I changed over would be all I needed.  I have a k10 I was having an issue with and I'll just use the inner parts to restore the one I disected.  I can always add more later if I decide!

Thanks again,

Greg

[Geeman]

You could possibly get some of the black followers from EAA as a try as well. They have a different one that isn't a K10.

$12 for a follower???  Wow.  $100 for a safty???

They are getting carried away, aren't they!

Greg

[Intercooler]

It should be $5 ea. for the followers.

[pacapcop]

I ran it with the 18lb spring, but nothing more than a Nugent load. Like i said, in the past they ran with 10 round mags and im sure somehow there was a overall change. Curious if Wonder Finish Compacts in other calibers are functioning.