UnderWood Ammo

[The_Shadow]

Well here is what is actually going on.  This "O" Communist Government Gone Wild for control and money, have jacked the fuel prices up.  This in turn has raised shipping prices on everything being shipped to and fro.  Also over regulations, increases raw materials prices of metals has risen to higher levels, besides the increased fuel cost to produce commodities, these cost get passed along to the powder makers, brass producers and companies like Underwood, McNett, Buffalo Bore, Remington, Federal, Winchester, CCI, etc. 

Now throw in the higher panic buying demands, sucking up the products as fast as they can, at these higher cost, filling the government coffers with tax money every step of the way.  Higher cost = more taxes!

If the ammo makers cut back a few grains of powder they can load a few more rounds, yes most of those buying would never know...The pull-downs haven't shown Underwood reduced any of his loadings.  However he has changed components (driven by shortages of supplies) to continue supplying products to the consumers.

If you want to place blame start at the top and follow the money and that leads you to Greedy Government that is strangling this nations economy and way of life!     :'(

[pacapcop]

This is what happens when you have a Gov't controlled by Central Bankers. The "monetary policy" we need is already in the Constitution: only gold and silver shall be used
It's a Ponzi scheme, and all Ponzi's come to an end. I am not a fan of "O", but let's call it for what it is, a sold out gov't long ago. It works in tandem ONLY to it's masters. Inflation has reared it's ugly head for energy and food and the things one needs. All costs passed along. The premise is that we are going to inflate are way out of debt. Never works, never has. It ends as a bust, or hyperinflation. it's no longer a free market, but a controlled market. It's rigged from Wall St to Wash.

[sqlbullet]

I am not going to argue that we have a long history of bad fiscal policy in this country under a wide variety of administrations.

But the idea of returning to the gold standard isn't very sound either.  Gold, silver, (other precious) metals, paper, etc are merely placeholders to represent actual goods or services.  There are a number of problems with the gold standard, some of which contributed significantly to the Great Depression.  The most easily understood relates to the fact that the gold supply is limited.  There is a finite amount of the stuff on earth. 

But wealth is NOT similarly limited.  We actually have more consumable goods by several orders of magnitude today than we did 50 or 100 years ago.

This means instability in the relationship of the value of currency in relation to goods/services.  And, at it's core, instability is the real issue.  I need my pay to consistently be able to buy the goods and services needed to care for my family.  Instability makes the market nervous.  And a nervous market results in hoarding, runs on goods, and curtailing of discretionary spending.  All of which further exacerbate the instability.

The correct course of action is to correctly control the supply of currency so the currency accurately represents the amount of goods/services, eg real world goods, that are in the economy.  Unfortunately, creating system where the supply of money is elastic in this way also creates the ability for those in control of the money supply to manipulate it for their own good.

Given the relative stability we have had over the last 80 years, our current system is bad.  But it still has a long way to go.

Wait...Why is this thread entitled "Underwood Ammo"?

[captaintrips]

This "O" Communist Government Gone Wild for control and money, have jacked the fuel prices up.

I payed $3.79 a gallon today for gas....in June of 2008 I was paying $3.70-$3.90.  While I'm no fan of 'O', not sure how we blame him.

Underwood was plentiful a few months ago....it goes to show that one should buy when they can....Strike when the irons hot.

[pacapcop]

Gold is Money. JP Morgan testifying at Senate Hearing a few months before his death. Always has and always will. Currency is not money. That's why Russia, China and India have been full steam ahead on accumulation. In the late 60's and early 70's 10 cents got you what a buck gets today. And were not arguing, were simply factoring symptoms of costs. I agree, there are other factors as you mentioned. But I mentioned months ago here that this would come due to misalacations in the market. It's not just Underwood, but across the board. Regardless, it sucks all around and hurts us, not the 1%.

[sqlbullet]

Agreed.

And further, neither gold nor currency do you a dang bit of good if you are stuck outside, naked and hungry when no one is selling lodging, clothes or food because they worry they don't have enough.

I tend to fall back to the basics in what I "bank" first.  Food, clothes, cigarettes and whiskey.  (And I don't drink or smoke).

[Rojo27]

Well this well worn thread and saga has run the full cycle...

Underwood has 6 different choices of 10mm back in inventory and for sale on his direct website. 

[pacapcop]

Agree as well. Gold is insurance, nothing else. What I was getting at is there is a correlation between excess printing of fiat and energy. All those FRN's chasing to few goods (commodities). Sure we get TV's at 99 bucks, but we can't eat them. And the criminals took out the factor of calculating inflation in the CPI of food and energy. And what do we have presently, high food and energy costs = higher production costs for ammo. The rest of the world is pissed at the fact the U.S. is abusing it's reserve currency status and exporting high costs on them. Oil is traded in dollars (Petro Dollar) only. But that won't last as other countries are signing deals away from the dollar. The dollar is being debased. Also we in the 10mm world are not shooting the common round out there being made in excess. So were screwed all around.

[Noizy Child]

they have some 10mm ammo back in stock