A year later VLTOR Bren Ten

[The_Shadow]

Today is yet another year since the last communications from VLTOR Wordpress http://vltor.wordpress.com/
For those that don't know this was an attempt by VLTOR at reproducing the Original Bren Ten Pistols as first developed By Dornaus & Dixon as a combat pistol with guidance from Col. Jeff Cooper.  The 10mm cartridge was made by Norma.

The Bren Ten was an icon in the TV series Miami Vice miss named here as a Detonics...


Yet another year gone by of No News! No Guns! No SALES! But most of all a frustrated potential customer base! We the senior 10mm generation are not getting any younger, but the 10mm intrest still lives in our hearts and thru our education efforts, some of the younger generations are coming to appreciate this superb ballistic cartridge for what it has to offer.

[sqlbullet]

I have moved on.  If I ever see one in a gunshop for  the right price I will buy it, but I am done waiting.

[10mm4me]

VLTOR torqued me off with their distribution scheme in the very beginning.

I have an FFL and sent a few communications to them regarding buying from them direct. I was less than happy with how they handled that end of the deal, much less how they've been dragging their feet with production.

Doesn't look like they'll ever build one. Oh well... plenty of other pistols out there chambered in 10mm!

Even if they DO manage to build one, I have original D&Ds so I'm not sure I'd buy one of theirs after all the nonsense!

[Yondering]

I wonder if the Bren Ten would even still have a place as a useful modern 10mm pistol? They are pretty cool, but the design seems rather dated now. The seem overly large and bulky, with a high bore axis.

[enidpd804]

I followed the situation with you for what-three plus years, Shadow?  I've rarely been as disappointed/annoyed in my adult life.  I have no hopes they will come through at all. 

I went to a school in Aspen in '97.  I saw one of the originals in the Planet Hollywood there in a wall display.     As annoyed as I am, I gotta be honest:  if ANYBODY comes out with a reasonably priced, functional model, I'll have to break down and buy one. 

[The_Shadow]

My hopes were not to bring down moral here, as I was just trying to pass on the history relevent to todays date.
Yes, enidpd804, yourself, many others and myself have followed this for quite some time and actually putting money down just like many others, only to have the pie in the face! 

[sqlbullet]

Sorry if I came off as unappreciative of the historical reference.  I am not.  And I always enjoy talking about the 10mm, even if it is griping about how something was handled.

To be honest though, I kinda agree with Yondering.  Between the Glock 20/29, the 1911's and the CZ clones/derivatives already out there in 10mm I wonder what it's place would really be.

I would really like to see a review between the Bren Ten, or the VLTOR re-birth against a high end Tanfoglio CZ clone, like the Elite Stock or Elite Limited Pro.  Especially if the $150-$200 difference in price were put back into the Tanfoglio in the form of some Henning parts, like the recoil rod and flat bottom firing pin stop.

When I consider what is out there that I can get for a grand or more, I am hard pressed to think of a Bren Ten remake as much more than a novelty.

[gmtmaster]

Mishandled gigantic CF.... That company will NEVER see a dime of my money. A two year old could have done a better job communicating.

[REDLINE]

I kinda agree with Yondering.  Between the Glock 20/29, the 1911's and the CZ clones/derivatives already out there in 10mm I wonder what it's place would really be.

When I consider what is out there that I can get for a grand or more, I am hard pressed to think of a Bren Ten remake as much more than a novelty.

That sums up my thoughts.

[sqlbullet]

Some novelties though, must be had.

[REDLINE]

It will be interesting to see if it ever becomes available to be had.  I'm leaning heavily toward doubt.  But, for those that really want to see it happen, I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya!

[alwaysshootin]

I think it would have been wonderful if VLTOR had re-introduced the Bren Ten, but, that looks to be an impossibility, at least at this time. What I think is much more important, and, would think possible, would be M&P, XD, and Ruger, to come out with something in 10MM!

   I've said this before, and, if other 10 fans would follow my logic, maybe with enough of us, we could twist some arms. It's simple! Don't buy another 9, 40, or 357 Sig! If you have one, you have enough. Did you hear all the rumbling when the "shield" was introduced? Who cares? I surely don't. Nines, and forties, have been done to death.

   Was contemplating purchasing a pocket nine recently, then after much deliberation, decided it won't get used. Who wants a pocket sized 9 for a range toy. Not me! Bought a second G20. My next purchase will definitely be a Bond Arms in 10MM! Unless of course M&P comes out with a 10, then it will be purchased. HINT, HINT. 

[sqlbullet]

SR-1911/10mm.  Compete with 20lb recoil spring, flat bottom firing pin stop and a 28 lb mainspring. 

At the current SR1911 price.  That would be a great gun at an unbelievable price.

[alwaysshootin]

SR-1911/10mm.  Compete with 20lb recoil spring, flat bottom firing pin stop and a 28 lb mainspring. 

At the current SR1911 price.  That would be a great gun at an unbelievable price.

   That would be nice. Heck, I'd even settle for one, if they charged $100 more, like Kimber does, just to have another firearm available in 10MM. Still though, what I really want to see is a M&P offered in 10. Smith, has been away from the 10 market, for way to long of time!!!!!!!!!

[EdMc]

I'm afraid the simple fact is that WE would like to see more products offered, but WE ain't very many.

By ATF stats for 2011 ~2.5 mil pistols, ~700k above 9mm to .50 cal. Around 35%.....Take out the number of .40 and .45's from that and......