New Powder Hodgdon's CFE Pistol

[The_Shadow]

Hodgdon's 2014 Annual Manual just came out and shows some loads for a NEW Powder...CFE Pistol.  Some loads are shown for 10mm and look like the are in the upper spectrum of performance>>>>>

[mlk3454]

Pressures aren't at the top end for the max loads so the bullets may be able to be safely pushed faster...

[The_Shadow]

The Burn Rate of the Hodgdon's CFE Pistol is shown as being between Winchester AutoComp (faster) and RamShot Silhouette (Slower)   http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

[Yondering]

Interesting, thanks for the info.

[RMM]

Wow.  Those numbers look great for an "on the book" load.

[The_Shadow]

Now with the introduction of this new power I will need to obtain some for testing and adding to the picture files...

They also show some use in 327 Mag, 380Auto, 9mm, 38Super, 38SPL & +P, 357Sig, 357Mag, 40S&W, 10mm, 44SPL, 44Mag, 45Gap, 45ACP, 45 Colt.

[Aegis]

This looks like a great all around pistol powder. Can't wait to try it. Vihta Vhouri powders have all but disappeared lately.

[The_Shadow]

Here is a little info from Hodgdon and they speak to the supply issues...

[snuffy]

Seems like they would have given it a different name so as not to get confused with CFE223, even though it is called CFE Pistol.  Sounds interesting, kind of universal for me. I'm new and don't go past mid range with any of my loads.

[Yondering]

Agreed, but at least it's not as confusing as their Clays, Universal Clays, and International Clays powders.

[The_Shadow]

OK totay, I managed to buy a pound of Hodgdon CFE (Copper Foul Eraser) Pistol powder.
It is very fine flatten ball with a silvery to dark grey look.  It has a similar appearance to AutoComp...

Here are a few pictures of the CFE Pistol Powder.







I will have to test some of the available data to see how it works and how close to publish velocities I get and if the pressures and cycling of the pistols.

I am also wanting to develop some loads in the 9x25Dillon project. 

[attrapereves]

I've also got a pound of it. I don't think I'm going to use it for 10mm, but I am working up some 9mm and 45ACP loads.

[hammer1]

The LGS actually has some

[hammer1]

I was looking at it for other cartridges, it shows a standard pressure230 gr 45 auto load at 934 fps, and a pressure of 19700.

[Spkrdctr]

I'd like to make a coment on the video. The real question that needs to be asked is NOT the worn out "why can't I find powder", but why in the last 5 years that powder has been unavailable, haven't you built a new building and doubled your manufacturing base? Him stating that 2014 and 15 will be more of the same is a VERY lame statement. I just can't believe that the ammo component manufacturers have not stepped up and really increased production with new facilities. They are the most unwillling group to satisfy their customer demand I can think of. Any other market and it would be flooded with new production by now, after all they have had YEARS to build new plants. If I didn't enjoy shooting so much I would boycott the industry for the lack of supply and the willingness of them to let their sonxumer get gouged by the local dealers for years by marking up prices sky high. The NRA (I'm a life member) hasn't dealt with the subject. It has been swept under the rug. In the meantime we get ripped off by local dealers and online dealers while the manufactures turn a blind eye to the whole thing.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but if I went to the Shot Show I'd go off on every single one of them as they are helping to kill off  new shooters by making it too expensive to shoot. OK, I will stop ranting now, but I know you guys understand what I'm trying to say.