Glock 42 to be unveiled in January 2014

Started by The_Shadow, December 11 2013 09:35:11 PM MST

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DAVIDF

I missed the DB9 while trying to search to see if there was anything currently produced that was slimmer. Diamondback actually lists the weight as 11 ounces (perhaps w/o a mag). How is it to shoot at that light weight & small grips? I find my G20 more comfortable to shoot than my G26, particularly weak handed.

Rich10

Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 01:42:17 PM MST
Quote from: Rich10 on January 05 2014 07:11:26 AM MST
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Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 05:41:38 AM MST
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.

Yes I know. But it is bigger than most of the other .380 ultra compacts we see out there today, for example Ruger, Smith, and Colt. In other words, it won't be akin to firing an LCP.

And yet it is still bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm, which makes it a total loser.

Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter.  And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.

Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.

StockIIBoss

It's a bit of a handful to shoot, but better than the Rohrbaugh R9 I had. The grip distance (front to back) is nice for better control and it doesn't feel like it's going to jump out of your hand.

StockIIBoss

Quote from: StockIIBoss on January 06 2014 07:34:39 AM MST
It's a bit of a handful to shoot, but better than the Rohrbaugh R9 I had. The grip distance (front to back) is nice for better control and it doesn't feel like it's going to jump out of your hand.


I also have a Boberg XR9-S. It's .96" wide, and 5.1" long (yet has a 3.35" barrel). I carry it in a wallet holster. It's comparatively heavy for a pocket gun at 17 oz, though (IMO). It's a 7+1 rated for +P and +P+, and something you can shoot all day long with its minimal recoil. However, .80" vs .96" is a difference I can really feel. 

The_Shadow

That little Ruger LCP was a neat concept, I just have to wonder how it would handle the Underwood loadings!  :o
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DAVIDF

Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter.  And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
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Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.
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For me, the width &  primarily weight are what I am considering more than anything else. My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces. I have no trouble concealing it.  When I want something lighter I carry a Glock 26. However, I really want something lighter for running, cycling, or just when I don't feel like lugging around a big chunk. Loaded, the Glock 42 will be around 8 or more ounces lighter than the 26. My first consideration for a carry gun has always been how easy & proficient can I be with it. How easy is it to carry or conceal has been much lesser considerations. I've considered something really tiny like an LCP, but I've been hesitant to go that small.

StockIIBoss

Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces.


Why did I just get this picture of you shotgunning a beer and smashing the can on your forehead??  :)) :)) :))


Just playin'. No, really!!
Please don't hurt me...  ;)

Rich10

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Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter.  And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.

Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.
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For me, the width &  primarily weight are what I am considering more than anything else. My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces. I have no trouble concealing it.  When I want something lighter I carry a Glock 26. However, I really want something lighter for running, cycling, or just when I don't feel like lugging around a big chunk. Loaded, the Glock 42 will be around 8 or more ounces lighter than the 26. My first consideration for a carry gun has always been how easy & proficient can I be with it. How easy is it to carry or conceal has been much lesser considerations. I've considered something really tiny like an LCP, but I've been hesitant to go that small.
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I understand what you are saying.  For me, my first consideration for a CCW is caliber.  In my case, I choose to carry nothing lighter than a 9x19.
My next consideration is reliability.  Following that is size and typically I choose to carry the largest pistol that I can conceal well.
That is why I said that length, height, and grip are more important to me than weight.  I think that the biggest obstacle to concealing a weapon well is the grip length (that is why a G26 may be easier to conceal than a G19, the grip length, not barrel length).
I typically carry a G19c in a hybrid IWB holster.  It works well in 95% of circumstances.  For the other few percent (such as running or when really deep concealment is required), I chose a Kahr CM9 or CW9 in a AIWB rig and they are undetectable.
The CM9 is a handful.  I have learned to shoot proficiently with it and actually enjoy shooting it now.  I think with proper training you can shoot any handgun proficiently.

So, FWIW, which is not much  ;) , my personal criteria is what leads me to believe that the G42 is a loser.

Of course, YMMV.

yankee2500

It's of no interest to me.
A slim single stack compact 9mm by Glock would have been something I would buy.
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Quote from: yankee2500 on January 06 2014 07:22:20 PM MST
It's of no interest to me.
A slim single stack compact 9mm by Glock would have been something I would buy.

I agree.

Glock has jumped the Mod G40.  My guess it is the 9mm on the same platform as the G42.  Just working out the bugs for now.

DAVIDF

Quote from: StockIIBoss on January 06 2014 01:03:03 PM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces.


Why did I just get this picture of you shotgunning a beer and smashing the can on your forehead??  :)) :)) :))


Just playin'. No, really!!
Please don't hurt me...  ;)
That's hilarious. I am a John Belushi fan. I could watch Animal House anytime :D

DAVIDF

Quote from: Rich10 on January 06 2014 01:24:56 PM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter.  And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.

Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.

For me, the width &  primarily weight are what I am considering more than anything else. My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces. I have no trouble concealing it.  When I want something lighter I carry a Glock 26. However, I really want something lighter for running, cycling, or just when I don't feel like lugging around a big chunk. Loaded, the Glock 42 will be around 8 or more ounces lighter than the 26. My first consideration for a carry gun has always been how easy & proficient can I be with it. How easy is it to carry or conceal has been much lesser considerations. I've considered something really tiny like an LCP, but I've been hesitant to go that small.
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I understand what you are saying.  For me, my first consideration for a CCW is caliber.  In my case, I choose to carry nothing lighter than a 9x19.
My next consideration is reliability.  Following that is size and typically I choose to carry the largest pistol that I can conceal well.
That is why I said that length, height, and grip are more important to me than weight.  I think that the biggest obstacle to concealing a weapon well is the grip length (that is why a G26 may be easier to conceal than a G19, the grip length, not barrel length).
I typically carry a G19c in a hybrid IWB holster.  It works well in 95% of circumstances.  For the other few percent (such as running or when really deep concealment is required), I chose a Kahr CM9 or CW9 in a AIWB rig and they are undetectable.
The CM9 is a handful.  I have learned to shoot proficiently with it and actually enjoy shooting it now.  I think with proper training you can shoot any handgun proficiently.

So, FWIW, which is not much  ;) , my personal criteria is what leads me to believe that the G42 is a loser.

Of course, YMMV.
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How proficient are you with the CM9 compared with the 26? And, how much did you have to work with the CM9 to become proficient?

I would prefer to stay with a 9 as well. However, I'm concerned about how difficult it is to control something as light as the CM9, Diamonback DB9, or a Glock 42 if it were in 9. Hickok45 says the DB9 is a handful. He still shoots it well as he does all handguns, but if he says it is a handful then it may be a bit more than I would prefer. I prefer to carry something that I am extremely proficient with rather than a specific caliber.

I am planning on purchasing 2 small hanguns for both my wife & I. I prefer that they both be the identical models & calibers. She handles the Glock 20 well & even our 4 5/8" barreled Super Blackhawk with moderate loads. But I don't believe she'll care for a 9mm in something that weighs under 14 ounces.

Rich10

Quote from: DAVIDF on January 08 2014 09:07:11 AM MST
How proficient are you with the CM9 compared with the 26? And, how much did you have to work with the CM9 to become proficient?

I would prefer to stay with a 9 as well. However, I'm concerned about how difficult it is to control something as light as the CM9, Diamonback DB9, or a Glock 42 if it were in 9. Hickok45 says the DB9 is a handful. He still shoots it well as he does all handguns, but if he says it is a handful then it may be a bit more than I would prefer. I prefer to carry something that I am extremely proficient with rather than a specific caliber.

I am planning on purchasing 2 small hanguns for both my wife & I. I prefer that they both be the identical models & calibers. She handles the Glock 20 well & even our 4 5/8" barreled Super Blackhawk with moderate loads. But I don't believe she'll care for a 9mm in something that weighs under 14 ounces.
It's kind of difficult to measure how proficient I am with it.  I haven't used it in a pistol course or anything like that.  For that I would use my 17 or 19, and the reason I wouldn't use the CM9 in a course is due to the mag capacity and grip length (it's a little short). 
I found that I could shoot the CM9 or CW9 better than a G26.  The CM9 and CW9 are single stack and even though the grip is shorter, the thin grip makes for a more controllable pistol overall. 

I would think if your wife can handle a G20 or Super Blackhawk (.357 I guess?), she can handle a micro 9mm. 

Take a drive to a legs.  Handle the CM9, CW9, db9, LC9, etc.....

DAVIDF

Thanks Rich10,

I've handled a CM9 & P380. They both feel good. I like the trigger on them pretty well. Nice to hear that you can shoot the CM9 & CW9 better than the 26. I would have thought the results would be the other way around.  Rented an earlier model LCP not this years with the improved sights & trigger. It was fairly easy to be accurate with it to my suprise.

Our Super Blackhawk is in 44 mag. That is one of the guns she is more accurate with.

DenStinett

Quote from: Steve4102 on December 13 2013 12:25:52 AM MST
Double stack 380?

http://thegunwire.com/blog/youtube-video-thefirearmguy-glock-42-thinnest-glock-yet-true-or-false/

It may not be a true "Double Stack", but the Mag is wider than a Single Stack

Wonder what Loader MagLULA plans to use with this one ?
The UpLULA won't load it, the Beak's too wide
The Magazine is too wide for the BabyUpLULA
And the new 22UpLULA will ONLY load Rimfire Rounds

I asked Guy Tal (One of the Head Guys at MagLULA) why they made the 22UpLULA for Rimfires only and I got the usual double talk, that translates into;
"Why sell one Loader, when you can force your Customers to buy two or three".....Now maybe a forth !
So tell me again how Trump was worse then the 8 years before .... AND what came after HIM !