Stopping Power by caliber

[Intercooler]

   I will put the link to this if you want to have a look:

http://rugerforum.net/ammo-dump/93122-cool-stats-one-stopping-power.html


I find it interesting that most calibers have a better stop % using the lighter weight bullets for caliber... 185 vs 230, 165 vs 180, 125 vs 158, 210 vs 240, etc...


I still like my 155's in 10mm for personal work.

[Intercooler]

10 loads
10 mm Stopping Power, all bullet weights
Brand   Bullet   Shootings   One Shot Stops   Percent   Diameter   Penetration   Notes
Federal   155 gr JHP   20   18   90%   0.73"   12.4"   
Corbon   150 gr JHP   10   9   90%   0.82"   11.1"   
Winchester   175 gr ST   64   56   88%   0.76"   10.8"   
Winchester   175 gr ST   28   24   86%   0.69"   12.4"   4" barrel or less
Federal   180 gr HS   57   49   86%   0.66"   12.9"   
Federal   180 gr HS   19   16   84%   0.61"   13.2"   4" barrel or less
Federal   180 gr JHP   45   38   84%   0.68"   13.4"   
Federal   180 gr JHP   11   9   82%   0.63"   13.9"   4" barrel or less
Winchester   180 gr JHP   59   48   82%   0.63"   14.6"   
Remington   180 gr JHP   48   29   81%   0.67"   13.7"   

[4949shooter]

   I will put the link to this if you want to have a look:

http://rugerforum.net/ammo-dump/93122-cool-stats-one-stopping-power.html


I find it interesting that most calibers have a better stop % using the lighter weight bullets for caliber... 185 vs 230, 165 vs 180, 125 vs 158, 210 vs 240, etc...


I still like my 155's in 10mm for personal work.

Yep, .357 Magnum was king back when those stats were compiled. The .40 165 grain loads are doing well also.

Not enough shootings in 10mm to give a valid data sample. The Winchester Silvertip was rated 88% according to Marshall & Sanow's statistics....56 stops out of 64 shootings. The Corbon 150 grain load had 9 stops out of 10 shooting, for 90%. The Federal 155 grain jhp had 18 stops out of 20 shootings for 90%.

Again, this is according to Marshall & Sanow, if you subscribe to their testing. I would love to see data on some of the modern loads, but police departments are not using the 10mm and civilians aren't carrying it enough these days.

Edit: Opps! I see you posted the data already.

[enidpd804]

I like Evan.  One should really pay attention to someone who spent 20 years as a cop in Detroit, attended scores of autopsies and was involved in four deadly force encounters.  That said, Evan hasn't collected data since 9/11.  Dave Spaulding has hinted that he is collecting data.  I keep hoping that he will write a book or even an article with some updated results.  I'm really curious about DPX and HST. 

[4949shooter]

I like Evan.  One should really pay attention to someone who spent 20 years as a cop in Detroit, attended scores of autopsies and was involved in four deadly force encounters.   That said, Evan hasn't collected data since 9/11.  Dave Spaulding has hinted that he is collecting data.  I keep hoping that he will write a book or even an article with some updated results.  I'm really curious about DPX and HST.

No doubt. Even the naysayers could learn a thing or two from Evan.

[Intercooler]

   I put this into the master sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak5OC6bPsjO8dEh6eGZ3N3hpUU13SXM5cm9pZy16T0E&usp=drive_web#gid=11

[4949shooter]

Very nice. It looks like in 10mm and .40 calibers, the light-medium and medium weight bullets do best.

[enidpd804]

I like Evan.  One should really pay attention to someone who spent 20 years as a cop in Detroit, attended scores of autopsies and was involved in four deadly force encounters.   That said, Evan hasn't collected data since 9/11.  Dave Spaulding has hinted that he is collecting data.  I keep hoping that he will write a book or even an article with some updated results.  I'm really curious about DPX and HST.

No doubt. Even the naysayers could learn a thing or two from Evan.

I was typing my reply when you posted.  The .357 125 grain round's success made me think the 10mm 135gr. would be really successful.  They just came out too late to help the 10mm win public favor.  Imagine a 10 with a 135 grain HST doing 1400+fps.    

[4949shooter]

In addition, Mas Ayoob has stated the 180 jhp rounds (~1250 fps) carried back then by the Kentucky State Police did well. No percentages though.

[4949shooter]

I like Evan.  One should really pay attention to someone who spent 20 years as a cop in Detroit, attended scores of autopsies and was involved in four deadly force encounters.   That said, Evan hasn't collected data since 9/11.  Dave Spaulding has hinted that he is collecting data.  I keep hoping that he will write a book or even an article with some updated results.  I'm really curious about DPX and HST.

No doubt. Even the naysayers could learn a thing or two from Evan.

I was typing my reply when you posted.  The .357 125 grain round's success made me think the 10mm 135gr. would be really successful.  They just came out too late to help the 10mm win public favor.  Imagine a 10 with a 135 grain HST doing 1400+fps.   

I would like to see the stats on that one! Only when you care to send the very best.   

[Intercooler]

  The 150gr Cor-Bon has been gel tested already. I sent the 155gr Federal listed in the data to Chopinbloc already for testing. It will be interesting to see!

[4949shooter]

  The 150gr Cor-Bon has been gel tested already. I sent the 155gr Federal listed in the data to Chopinbloc already for testing. It will be interesting to see!

If you read Evan's book, the 150 grain Corbon had a dismal failure to stop. The shooter gave up his 10mm and procured a revolver in .44 mag because of it. I know 10 shootings is not a good sample, but the incident sticks out in my mind, and I would not carry the Corbon 150 because of it.

[Intercooler]

     I'm sure today's new bullets have helped those 10mm percentages greatly. If someone would offer or do development on the 10mm like 9mm has it would really prosper. We will never know for sure about the new offerings because it isn't used for law enforcement. I really like the way those Underwood 155 GD's looked like huge Spiders 

[enidpd804]

  The 150gr Cor-Bon has been gel tested already. I sent the 155gr Federal listed in the data to Chopinbloc already for testing. It will be interesting to see!

If you read Evan's book, the 150 grain Corbon had a dismal failure to stop. The shooter gave up his 10mm and procured a revolver in .44 mag because of it. I know 10 shootings is not a good sample, but the incident sticks out in my mind, and I would not carry the Corbon 150 because of it.

That one failure to stop had horrific results.  That's why I like Evan's books so much.  I still have the original, but the other two have been on permanent loan for a while.     All of his research taught him to find a load that he liked and shoot to lockback if the occasion presented itself, because handguns are no bueno. 

[The_Shadow]

Our coveted caliber doesn't have a extended track record because LEO's are not using it anymore...However looking at the 40 Short and Weak shows some interestings data where speed is working for the lighter bullets.  We all know that we are driving the 10mm over those speeds and the Short and Weak lacks in that performance with the heavier weights.  Bullet construction and impact velocities are what allow them to work as designed in the intended medium...

Three things are what make for a one stop shot;
1) Bullet placement is by far the most crucial.
2) Bullet placement is by far the most crucial.
3) Bullet placement is by far the most crucial.

The deer I shot with a 200gr XTP at 130 yards, was a on shot stop.  Stating velocity was 2000 fps from a Winchester APEX 29" BBL muzzleloader in a sabot, impact velocity was estimated at 1300 fps.

Not to get too far off the track...Handloads.com http://www.handloads.com/ has been one of my main hangouts for many years.  I have like here made many acquaintances, and friends over the years.  What is sad is when members pass away, leaving a void in your life as though you have lost a loved one! :'(